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    What would I do? Not play Parker against playoff teams until Kawhi returns. You can get away with playing him against bottom feeders like Minny but the negative impact is too much to overcome against a competent opponent. We beat the Wizards quite easily last week without Parker stepping on the court. Ball movement was awesome - Cojo/Patty both looked great. Parker comes back and just ruins the chemistry last night. Horrendous on defense and a ballstopper on the other end. Pop should have rested him last night and then played him against Charlotte tonight.

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    No the take here is "Parker is an overrated selfish jealous piece of got"

    I imagine Patty, Cojo, Timmy, and RC reading this on spurstalk and thinking, "wow, some of our fans really suck."

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    I imagine Patty, Cojo, Timmy, and RC reading this on spurstalk and thinking, "wow, some of our fans really suck."

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    What would I do? Not play Parker against playoff teams until Kawhi returns. You can get away with playing him against bottom feeders like Minny but the negative impact is too much to overcome against a competent opponent. We beat the Wizards quite easily last week without Parker stepping on the court. Ball movement was awesome - Cojo/Patty both looked great. Parker comes back and just ruins the chemistry last night. Horrendous on defense and a ballstopper on the other end. Pop should have rested him last night and then played him against Charlotte tonight.

    I agree with having a three-pronged approach to the PG position-- it's a luxury most teams don't have. The one very positive impact of Parker's injury has definitely been the improvement of Cojo. But a healthy Parker shooting 50+% is not something to be ignored in many match up situations either.

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    Nothing says I'm a grown up capable of intelligent discussion quite like an LOL Laffy Emoticon.

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    he's been predictable on the offensive end, that's what has been hurting us the most, he is also playing pick and roll with timmy too much. He has also been bad defensively. He'll be better in a month imo, he is moving fine.

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    Nothing says I'm a grown up capable of intelligent discussion quite like an LOL Laffy Emoticon.

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    He is slowly improving group can see it game by game. Gonna need him.

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    Because my alleged "hate" for Tony is vastly overrated... yeah, I poke fun here and there, but it has always been good-intentioned... I've reserved the actual trolling for downstairs...

    I love Tony, I love this team... how could you not? They gave us a LOBT just 6 months ago... can't be so short-sighted.
    can we have a "player-bashing" section, and a section where we actually discuss spurs basketball.

    Mods would need to move threads/posts on a regular basis.

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    Look on the bright side fellas. It's nowhere but up for tp9 at this point.

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    can we have a "player-bashing" section, and a section where we actually discuss spurs basketball.

    Mods would need to move threads/posts on a regular basis.
    Great idea. How is it the best run organization in the NBA has so many half-wit ingrates as fans who think the organization is completely clueless? It's unbelievable.

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    and to think if not for the thrown game 2 and the 8 turnovers in game 6 in 2013, MVParker would have another Finals MVP to his collection.

    ce la vie

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    The only one cherry-picking stats was you:

    "In the month of November, he played every game, was healthy, and put up 16.7ppg & 5.9 apg while shooting FGs @ 50% and 3ptFGs @ 55.6%. The Spurs were 11-3 for that month. You can't just ignore those numbers"

    lol only talking about November
    lol ignoring the months when Kawhi was out with injury
    If the team was 11-3 for that stretch then he certainly wasn't hurting them.....if Parker and PGs are really so unimportant then why complain about them......their level if play literally has no effect on the outcome of any games.....

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    He is slowly improving group can see it game by game. Gonna need him.
    Last night I started seeing it.
    When he is healthy and playing well, teams have to adjust for him. He started out bad, but came around. Still doesn't look completely healthy

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    Great idea. How is it the best run organization in the NBA has so many half-wit ingrates as fans who think the organization is completely clueless? It's unbelievable.
    Because it's "edgy", it makes them feel special, and they think imitating 4chan is the key to being cool on the internet.

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    I don't know how a healthy Parker (meaning something closer to MVParker) would fit into the current Spurs. The team simply doesn't need him to dominate the ball as much as it used to, to the extent that Parker doing so will end up hurting the team's efficiency. However, it's obvious that Tony will need to get to that kind of level for times where the ball-movement gets taken away.

    I seriously wonder what kind of contract Parker would have gotten had he been allowed to play out the year. I'm thinking a $40M/4 would have been fair for both sides. That would have given the Spurs a max slot this summer. Just a situation all around.

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    Premature ejaculation thread. Tony is playing poorly. But 10 posts every game by the same handful of posters shows trolling or obsession. TP is improving his speed every game, which is the core improvement needed. In a month, I am hopeful that he will be at least as fast as he was in 2014 when he was clicking, but who knows.

    Some of you younger, less experienced posters need to stop, unless you are just whoring for attention. Any valuable posters on this site are being driven away. A forum is not just a place to yourself for attention like some resurrected MySpace.

    Right now TP to me has a confidence problem and is forcing things a bit. At the same time, like Derrick Rose, he seems to be favoring his hamstring and is overly cautious in turning on the jets -- hence the two blocks by Humphries last night.
    163 posts about TP so far..

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    I don't know how a healthy Parker (meaning something closer to MVParker) would fit into the current Spurs. The team simply doesn't need him to dominate the ball as much as it used to, to the extent that Parker doing so will end up hurting the team's efficiency. However, it's obvious that Tony will need to get to that kind of level for times where the ball-movement gets taken away.

    I seriously wonder what kind of contract Parker would have gotten had he been allowed to play out the year. I'm thinking a $40M/4 would have been fair for both sides. That would have given the Spurs a max slot this summer. Just a situation all around.
    yeah, we sure have no use for a low 4th quarter turnover starting PG

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    yeah, we sure have no use for a low 4th quarter turnover starting PG
    No turnovers in the 4th quarter means nothing when you play no D and barely play O (Enrique).

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    "we have no use for a starting PG" - short bus rider

    "but we're barely clinging to the 7th seed" - smart spur fan

    "no worries Kawhi will come in and his D will take us to the top of the league" - short bus rider

    ":facepalm" - smart spurfan


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    I don't know how a healthy Parker (meaning something closer to MVParker) would fit into the current Spurs. The team simply doesn't need him to dominate the ball as much as it used to, to the extent that Parker doing so will end up hurting the team's efficiency. However, it's obvious that Tony will need to get to that kind of level for times where the ball-movement gets taken away.

    I seriously wonder what kind of contract Parker would have gotten had he been allowed to play out the year. I'm thinking a $40M/4 would have been fair for both sides. That would have given the Spurs a max slot this summer. Just a situation all around.
    He is still one of two penetrators that must be dealt with in the half court. we lose either him or Manu, things get very tough. Every Spurs fan should appreciate the options Tony gives us. No, he does not have to be dominant on the ball anymore, but I sure like knowing when the clock is running down we have 2 guys that cause problems for the other team.
    And he is getting his speed back. Learning how he will fit in exactly when KL returns will be important.

    These posters that say we don't need him are delusional. He is still the fastest guy with the ball on our team that is an accelerator. He can stop/start better than anyone we have. Manu does this very well with ball fakes but he is not as quick.

    Any Spurs fan has got to see this.

    The he extension is done with just like Tiago. If they both are deemed to be sitting on fat contacts then we all have a problem.

    And yet again I say, no way we win a le without a healthy team that includes Parker.

    This is Coming from a guy who chunks projectiles at the screen when he lays on the floor after missing a layup, or continually grabs his round head every time he gets smacked on that spherical thing atop his neck.

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    I'm amazed that people here in S.A. struggle to see the impact of a player like Parker when fully healthy. Every other team in the league would be happy to take him off our hands. Why wouldn't we want a point guard with a good midrange game and a great finisher in the paint? Excuse me, an elite finisher in the paint. Every time he gets in the lane, he breaks down the defense, which allows for an advantage in the Spurs passing game. Same with Manu. The Spurs haven't gone away from a guard penetration system. That's what they do the last few minutes of every quarter, and sprinkled throughout the game. And when the shot clock starts to tick down, keep your eye on what they do...big comes and sets a screen and Parker and Manu create offense off those screens. They are two of the best in the league at doing it. We have struggled without Parker as a threat. Once he is healthy, and Kawhi is back, we will be a lethal team. You can't bag on a guy with a bad hamstring. Those injuries take time and you have to be really careful not to reinjure. His stats are down because he's rusty, injured, and playing limited minutes to avoid reinjurying his hamstring.

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    Amazed that people are still ignoring how poor Parker played in last year's playoffs, tbh..

    I do agree that the Spurs need 1 of Manu or Parker to be effective to win the championship, thankfully Manu had a dominant run last year, and it looks like he has much more left in the tank than Parker does..

    Parker just hasn't been anything more than a hit or miss, above average player since game 6 of the 2013 Finals..he had an above average regular season, last year, and a mediocre playoff run..

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    I don't know how a healthy Parker (meaning something closer to MVParker) would fit into the current Spurs. The team simply doesn't need him to dominate the ball as much as it used to, to the extent that Parker doing so will end up hurting the team's efficiency. However, it's obvious that Tony will need to get to that kind of level for times where the ball-movement gets taken away.

    I seriously wonder what kind of contract Parker would have gotten had he been allowed to play out the year. I'm thinking a $40M/4 would have been fair for both sides. That would have given the Spurs a max slot this summer. Just a situation all around.
    Come on, you have +10k posts and still trolling (?), drunk or your hate blinds you buddy...

    If you think we don't need his penetrations, +50% shooting, knowledge of systems, ball handling... well...

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