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    Im all about freedom of press, and God knows im guilty of judging all muslims based off the extremist like ISIS. But there are 1.5 billion muslims. Is it really a good idea to continue to print cartoons making fun of them? Its just gonna get more people killed just to prove a point. One thing i will admit is those extremist will die in a heart beat for what they believe in. So are u ok with provoking them and causing even more terror against people because of it?
    Yeah....it's kind of weird that this new standard is being set, where if you don't publish cartoons that insult the sacred beliefs of others, you automatically don't believe in free speech. Like god forbid some news outlets actually care about not offending people.

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    You need to look around you more. The US has slipped mightily in terms of literacy, which you use your own and not the international measure to judge your own population. The US military grunt ranks are filled with poor trash who see the armed services as a 'way out' and the US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, again mainly made up of poor illiterate people. There is also good argument that the USA's incarcerated population has become an economic necessity. As far as conspiracy theories - good lord where do we start: birthers, truthers, tea party, anti climate change, NRA, FOX news, Illuminati, KKK, WASP's etc etc.
    (shrugs)

    My post was about Islam and global demographics.

    Cataloging my countries shortfalls and problems, while important, was not germaine. I do not shy away from admitting, or pointing out the problems with my own country, which are many as you very rightly point out.

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    “One cannot react violently, but if [someone] says something bad about my mother, he can expect a punch. It’s to be expected,” the pontiff said. “There are a lot of people who speak badly about other religions. They make fun of them. What happens is what happens with my friend [who insults my mother]. There is a limit.”

    the Pope drops the hammer

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    A moment of moral clarity from RG.
    Not sure how that is "moral" clarity. Merely an analysis based on evidence available.

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    Texas Pro-Gun Group Stage Mock Charlie Hebdo Attacks with Armed Civilians—Fails Every Time

    A pro-gun group behind the website pro-gun website The Truth About Gunshas found that if the employees of Charlie Hebdo were armed it probably wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome of the attack.

    Dallas television station KTVT-TV reported that the group conducted a "Monday morning quarterback" simulation on Tuesday where they constructed a set mimicking the layout of the Charlie Hebdo offices and then reenacted the attack scenario several times, with two actors playing the terrorist gunmen staging a surprise assault. The only difference was that this time, the volunteers took turns playing the role of an armed civilian trying to foil the attacks.


    The group found that in 11 out of 12 tries, the civilian was “killed” by a shot from the mock attackers, who actually fired paint rounds from their weapons. In only two cases out of many were the armed volunteers able to get off a shot where they “killed” one person playing the role of an armed gunman.

    video here: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...-hebdo-attacks

    sicko gun fellators, bleeding NRA/GOA propaganda


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    While you're busy searching for far left links to post, this is what the rest of the Western World is concerned with:

    Terror Crackdown in Europe: Raids in Belgium, France and Germany.

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    While you're busy searching for far left links to post, this is what the rest of the Western World is concerned with:

    Terror Crackdown in Europe: Raids in Belgium, France and Germany.
    rest of the Western World!

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    "But but if all the hostages had guns they'd be alive, I know it you guys "

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    Personally, I'd rather get killed shooting back than being unarmed and just ting my pants waiting for him to pull the trigger.

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    Sure looks like more than a handful of Muslims across the Middle East protesting/rioting Charlie Hebdo

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    Personally, I'd rather get killed shooting back than being unarmed and just ting my pants waiting for him to pull the trigger.
    and the 1000s of armed CC's in 1000s of offices would have killed more of their co-workers, etc accidentally than terrorists would have.

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    and the 1000s of armed CC's in 1000s of offices would have killed more of their co-workers, etc accidentally than terrorists would have.
    Nobody has come even close to getting killed in my office yet.

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    Nobody has come even close to getting killed in my office yet.
    anecdotal, and useless

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    http://www.straitstimes.com/news/wor...obama-20150117


    WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President Barack Obama on Friday urged European governments to try to better assimilate their Muslim minority populations as they respond to extremist attacks like last week’s shootings in Paris.
    At a White House news conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron, his first foreign guest since last week’s Charlie Hebdo massacre, Obama said the allies would stand by France.
    But he also warned that the answer to the recent violence must not simply be a security crackdown.
    “I know David joins me when I say that we will continue to do everything in our power to help France seek the justice that is needed, and that all our countries are working together seamlessly to prevent attacks and to defeat these terrorist networks,” Obama said.
    Obama said the Paris attacks “underscored how terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIL (ISIS) are actively trying to inspire and support people within our own countries to engage in terrorism.”
    The US leader said the 2013 Boston marathon bombing showed that the United States was not entirely safe from Islamic militant cells, but suggested that it had had more success than others in integrating minorities.
    “Our biggest advantage, major, is that our Muslim populations feel themselves to be Americans and there is this incredible process of immigration and assimilation that is part of our tradition,” he said.
    “There are parts of Europe in which that’s not the case... it’s important for Europe not to simply respond with a hammer and law enforcement and military approaches to these problems.”
    And he added: “There also has to be a recognition that the stronger the ties of a North African or a Frenchman of North African descent to French liberties, that’s going to be important over time.”
    He said the United States would hold a summit in February on countering violent extremism and the threat of radicalised Islamist fighters returning to their home countries from the war in Syria.
    “David and the United Kingdom continue to be strong partners in this work, including sharing intelligence and strengthening border security,” he said, dubbing Britain an “indispensable ally.”
    THREATS TO STABILITY
    Cameron said the two had agreed to set up “a joint group to identify what more we can do to counter the rise of domestic violent extremism and to learn from one another.”
    He described the battle facing Western governments as a “long, patient and hard struggle” and dubbed the enemy a “poisonous fanatical death cult... perverting the religion of Islam.”
    The United States and Britain already cooperate closely in global electronic surveillance, and Cameron said the two leaders had agreed to deepen their cooperation on cyber-security.
    In a separate statement, the White House said the US National Security Agency and FBI would form a joint cyber-security cell with British domestic intelligence MI5 and eavesdropping agency GCHQ.
    This will speed intelligence sharing and strengthen the allies’ defences against cyber-attacks from foreign governments and criminals, the leaders said.
    The partners will begin their reinforced cooperation with a year-long exercise to test and strengthen the defences of the financial sector.
    In recent weeks, Washington has been embarrassed by the seizure of a military Twitter account by Islamic militant sympathisers and angered by North Korea’s alleged hacking of Hollywood studio Sony Pictures.
    But trans-Atlantic partnership has also had successes.
    A young hacker – suspected of taking part in attacks that shut down online gaming platforms over Christmas – was arrested Friday in a joint operation with the FBI and British police.
    Obama, 53, is beginning his last two years in office, while Cameron, 48, is preparing for general elections in May that are expected to be very close and could mark the end of his coalition government.
    - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/wor....kvCQA2YZ.dpuf

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    "European governments to try to better assimilate their Muslim minority populations"

    American
    governments should try to better assimilate their black, brown minority populations



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    Here we go again

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/man-tak...303-slideshow/

    An armed man has taken several hostages at a post office northwest of Paris, an official at the city prosecutor's office told Reuters.
    The man equipped with a military weapon had taken an unconfirmed number of hostages at the post office in the town of Colombes, not far outside the capital, French media reported earlier.
    "I cannot confirm or deny whether it is linked to terrorism," the official said declining to give further details.
    BFM TV, citing an unidentified source, said the hostage taking was not related to last week's attacks in Paris. (Reuters)

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    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-...183209282.html


    should get interesting. be nice if they'd wipe eachother out

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    So much for the Taliban/Al Qaeda/ISIS nexis.

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    It's a complicated neighborhood. So much for it being one big nasty thing.

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    ISIL, the Repug/BigOil gift that keeps on giving

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    Overwhelmingly, those who have committed terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe aren’t Muslims. Let’s give that a moment to sink in.

    Now, it’s not your fault if you aren’t aware of that fact. You can blame the media. (Yes, Sarah Palin and I actually agree on one thing: The mainstream media sucks.)


    So here are some statistics for those interested. Let’s start with Europe. Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent.


    As Europol, the European Union’s law-enforcement agency, noted in its report released last year, the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs.

    We are talking about groups like France’s FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities. And in Greece in late 2013, the left-wing Militant Popular Revolutionary Forces shot and killed two members of the right-wing political party Golden Dawn. While over in Italy, the anarchist group FAI engaged in numerous terror attacks including sending a bomb to a journalist.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ven-close.html

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    In fact in 2013, it was actually more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing. How many people did toddlers kill in 2013? Five, all by accidentally shooting a gun.

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    we don’t see many stories about how to reduce the 30 Americans killed each day by gun violence or the three women per day killed by domestic violence. But the media will have on expert after expert discussing how can we stop these scary brown Muslims from killing any more Americans despite the fact you actually have a better chance of being killed by a refrigerator falling on you.

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    Gun instructors and police and law enforcement shoot more of themselves and their partners than terrorists kill Americans

    That's why we have the 2nd Amendment, freedom! to shoot yourself.

    Water the Tree of Libertee with your own ing blood!

    Better shoot yourself before the govt shoots you or takes all yours guns, right?

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