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    What player do you think is most comparable to LJC?
    Was thinking Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. That's be a pretty nice result, as MaM was one of the few guys in the league who could credibly guard 1-5 in the league. Dunno if LJC has the same agility, but he's bigger, so unlike MaM, he could play the four and not be at a big size disadvantage. And if Jean-Charles learns to hit the three, he'll be a much smaller offensive liability than MaM ever was.

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    I meant Kantor. 3rd overall pick 4 seasons ago and has been pretty good thus far but not great. I'm not very familiar with LJC. I've heard he has a pretty good jumper and is very long and a good athlete.
    If Kanter can really shoot from outside, then he'd have a place in the SL. Otherwise, he'd have to come off the bench with Diaw starting. I will say, though, that a Mills/Anderson/Bertans/Jean-Charles/Kanter bench would be fun to watch.

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    Kanter would be nice if he comes cheap and is willing to work towards a contract a la Ed Davis rather than a guaranteed big money contract because of his draft position.

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    I saw Bertans and he's ready

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    If Kanter can really shoot from outside, then he'd have a place in the SL. Otherwise, he'd have to come off the bench with Diaw starting. I will say, though, that a Mills/Anderson/Bertans/Jean-Charles/Kanter bench would be fun to watch.
    That's scary, in a bad way.

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    That's scary, in a bad way.
    It's not idea, but I think it'd have an incredibly high ceiling. You'd have passing, shooting, low-post scoring, defense and athleticism. I'd prefer Cory as the head of that snake, since he's more a PG and a better perimeter defender than Patty. But I'd love it either way.

    If the Spurs really use cap space this summer, it probalby comes at the expense of their experienced bench. They'll need to role with newbies, and those guys are probably just as promising as min-salary hangers-on.

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    It's not idea, but I think it'd have an incredibly high ceiling. You'd have passing, shooting, low-post scoring, defense and athleticism. I'd prefer Cory as the head of that snake, since he's more a PG and a better perimeter defender than Patty. But I'd love it either way.

    If the Spurs really use cap space this summer, it probalby comes at the expense of their experienced bench. They'll need to role with newbies, and those guys are probably just as promising as min-salary hangers-on.
    With/To whom will they use it? Assuming TD and Manu come back, DG and Kawhi sign and stay. Is the cap space basically locked around those 4?

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    With/To whom will they use it? Assuming TD and Manu come back, DG and Kawhi sign and stay. Is the cap space basically locked around those 4?
    I don't think there's reason to assume the silverbacks will return. There's no discussion of cap space if they do, however. Instead, they'd be lookin at MLE players. Perhaps it's time to bump by Pick-3 thread.

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    I don't think there's reason to assume the silverbacks will return. There's no discussion of cap space if they do, however. Instead, they'd be lookin at MLE players. Perhaps it's time to bump by Pick-3 thread.
    Well, of course. But on the other hand, if the Spurs win it all again big if, there's also no reason to assume that they'd retire. But that's for another topic.


    Back to that line-up though, I may have sounded a little judgemental since I haven't watch LJC play at all, seen a few highlights of Bertans and not too sold on KA's physical abilities yet. What gives you guys the idea that Kanter will come here though? Besides that he's not used by the Jazz now with the emergence of Gobert.

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    Hard to say, maybe slightly better.
    i would say definitely better. but we just as well as agree. so here's another question, if Kyle Anderson could be better. While adding young, cheap, drafted LJC and Bertans to the end of the bench, which i would (and reasonably so, imo) assume make them better. And still having room to add, imo, the best looking summer league player. Is it worth passing on all that better, to have the experience and potential of Bonner, Ayers, and Daye? Do RC and Pop appear to be more drunk than i?

    PS - it's my opinion that Baynes and Beli would also be better in the same way that Anderson would be. minutes + easy on the EYE test = improvement, being better, having a better team.

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    Well, of course. But on the other hand, if the Spurs win it all again big if, there's also no reason to assume that they'd retire. But that's for another topic.


    Back to that line-up though, I may have sounded a little judgemental since I haven't watch LJC play at all, seen a few highlights of Bertans and not too sold on KA's physical abilities yet. What gives you guys the idea that Kanter will come here though? Besides that he's not used by the Jazz now with the emergence of Gobert.
    I was responding to that part of the thread. I wouldn't hate the idea of Kanter at all, but if he were to come to the Spurs, he'd have to be able to shoot in order to play next to Splitter. You don't bench Tiago for Kanter. However, even Kanter on the bench would be worth the money, as he'd be the focal point and surrounded by players who'd play to his strengths.

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    i just responded to another thread about offering Aldridge a big contract. i would rather the spurs just skipped Aldridge and went straight for Kantor. although i'd say going for Tristan Thompson first would be a better idea. Kantor kinda seems busty, which would make him a cheaper tire kickin project. He might just not be better than Gobert, which makes him a bargain.

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    If the spurs offer all their cap room to any player, max or not, would they even be able to sign Bertans and give him enough to pay his buyout? I guess they'd have, what, the room exception?

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    If the spurs offer all their cap room to any player, max or not, would they even be able to sign Bertans and give him enough to pay his buyout? I guess they'd have, what, the room exception?
    Do you know the amount of the buyout? The Spurs will be allowed to pay up 625K towards a buyout without it counting against the salary cap.

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    If the spurs offer all their cap room to any player, max or not, would they even be able to sign Bertans and give him enough to pay his buyout? I guess they'd have, what, the room exception?
    if you can't go over cap to sign your own draft right player, the cba is garbage? or maybe you waited to long to finally sign your dang player? or maybe your not planning on signing your player and going over the cap?

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    Do you know the amount of the buyout? The Spurs will be allowed to pay up 625K towards a buyout without it counting against the salary cap.
    No idea how much it is.

    I suppose a workaround would be to give Bertans the remainder of the mle (3 million or so before being prorated) late this season after his season is over, and though that would decrease their cap room next year, it would preserve their room exception for someone else?

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    No idea how much it is.

    I suppose a workaround would be to give Bertans the remainder of the mle (3 million or so before being prorated) late this season after his season is over, and though that would decrease their cap room next year, it would preserve their room exception for someone else?
    That would work under the rules, but I don't see Bertans getting more than the minimum on his first NBA contract.

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    Even if Bertans is only getting the minimum, it's in the interest of the spurs to have him locked up for 3-4 years. Only way to do that is with cap room or the mle, maybe the room, don't remember.

    So the spurs could use the mle remainder for 4 years (in realty only to get him for the next 3 years) instead of a 2 year deal in the summer.

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    Even if Bertans is only getting the minimum, it's in the interest of the spurs to have him locked up for 3-4 years. Only way to do that is with cap room or the mle, maybe the room, don't remember.

    So the spurs could use the mle remainder for 4 years (in realty only to get him for the next 3 years) instead of a 2 year deal in the summer.
    I agree.

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    I'll also add that I don't think LJC will even be on the roster next year, so his cap hit would be zero.

    I don't see a lot to be excited about with him. The little footage that's available doesn't make me optimistic. He plays with some unremarkable athleticism for the NBA level from what I've seen and doesn't even show off that much skill for a sf or smallball pf. His body isn't freakish like a Kawhi or Giannis, it's just kind of solid. Would he even be better than Jamychal Green? I doubt it.

    Bertans of course I was convinced last year could step on a court right now and play. I can easily see him being an effective rotation player. Heck, I think Hanga could be a serviceable 5th wing or maybe even 4th. Sure, he's got 5 years on LJC but I could envision him working on a 13 man active roster. Maybe number 11-13, but I can see it. LJC may be underserved by the lack of copious footage (eg, I was able to watch full Bertans games at the end of last year after he came back). But I am not on the "expecting LJC on next year's team or else will be hugely disappointed" train.

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    If Kanter can really shoot from outside, then he'd have a place in the SL. Otherwise, he'd have to come off the bench with Diaw starting. I will say, though, that a Mills/Anderson/Bertans/Jean-Charles/Kanter bench would be fun to watch.
    I'm interested in seeing just how many young players are on the roster come next season. Whether it be Kantor, Anderson, LJC, Bertans with ,potentially, our first round pick. Maybe even J. Green if he makes enough of an impression. I'd fully expect the Spurs to take a step back next season (probably still a playoff team but less of a given) but I'd be fine with that if it means they build a solid foundation going forward.

    Outside of LJC, & Bertans do you think any of the other draft n' stashes have a chance to come over next season (Hanga, Richards, Denmon and Thomas)?

    I haven't heard much about Hanga (other than he's been playing pretty well of late and that he has an NBA out after each season).

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    Kanter would be nice if he comes cheap and is willing to work towards a contract a la Ed Davis rather than a guaranteed big money contract because of his draft position.
    The interesting part in Kantor's upcoming RFA is that they already have Favors and Golbert with a pick likely to fall in the top 5 (currently tied for 6th) this seems to be a very big heavy draft and they could take another.

    Hopefully the Spurs could land him in the $12-14 over 4 years range. I'd think that Reggie Jackson and Draymond Green will take up most of the attention from teams in RFA and the Spurs could have a decent chance of landing him if Utah is unwilling to resign him to that.

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    Deshaun Thomas is playing fairly well (shooting over 50% from 3 and 59% on 2s in the Euroleague) for arguably the best team in Europe . Right now he looks the most polished of all the overseas guys. He has played almost all of his minutes at SF this season but if he can do that in the NBA is doubtful. His scoring ability is definitely good enough for the NBA but there is only so much he can do defensively with his lack of athleticism.
    He reminds me an awful lot of Gary Neal. I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs traded him to a team that desperately needs some scoring and can overlook his defensive deficiencies.

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    The interesting part in Kantor's upcoming RFA is that they already have Favors and Golbert with a pick likely to fall in the top 5 (currently tied for 6th) this seems to be a very big heavy draft and they could take another.

    Hopefully the Spurs could land him in the $12-14 over 4 years range. I'd think that Reggie Jackson and Draymond Green will take up most of the attention from teams in RFA and the Spurs could have a decent chance of landing him if Utah is unwilling to resign him to that.
    I agree that Kantor represents a realistic target for 2015, but you're almost guaranteed to overpay to pry an RFA away. At a certain price, a team will match even if they don't really want to keep the player just to retain the asset and trade him later. Tricky game to snag a guy like Kantor or O'Quinn, for another example.

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    I'll also add that I don't think LJC will even be on the roster next year, so his cap hit would be zero.

    I don't see a lot to be excited about with him. The little footage that's available doesn't make me optimistic. He plays with some unremarkable athleticism for the NBA level from what I've seen and doesn't even show off that much skill for a sf or smallball pf. His body isn't freakish like a Kawhi or Giannis, it's just kind of solid. Would he even be better than Jamychal Green? I doubt it.

    Bertans of course I was convinced last year could step on a court right now and play. I can easily see him being an effective rotation player. Heck, I think Hanga could be a serviceable 5th wing or maybe even 4th. Sure, he's got 5 years on LJC but I could envision him working on a 13 man active roster. Maybe number 11-13, but I can see it. LJC may be underserved by the lack of copious footage (eg, I was able to watch full Bertans games at the end of last year after he came back). But I am not on the "expecting LJC on next year's team or else will be hugely disappointed" train.
    Jean-Charles will almost certainly be on the roster next season. He already said he was coming over and he has a guaranteed contract when he does.

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