Leonard the ball stopper

[ElNono]

Anybody else noticed he's been ballhogging a lot more the last few games? Grabs rebound, brings the ball up the court and ignores Parker in the corner. Dismisses Duncan in the post, calls for a screen and his jumper.

We won it all last season with great ball movement, and unselfishness... is this going to be a problem long term, tbh?

[Mikeanaro]

Honestly I like that, I said something about during the last game thread.
Is not a problem he needs to build that game Manu is not gonna drive forever and someday he and Tim will not be playing anymore gotta be ready for transition.

[spursparker9]

Rather Kawhi do it than Parker tbh.

[Brunodf]

I am not a big fan of Kawhi(or Tony) long jumpers with 18 seconds on the shot clock tbh...

If he misses that can lead to easy fastbreak points... If he makes its just 2 points in 6 seconds that didn't waste any energy from the opposite team...

[exstatic]

Rather Kawhi do it than Parker tbh.

The point. You missed it.

[jermaine]

But he's also one of our best passers. He make great decisions with the ball most times.

[Hoops Czar]

Nono not trolling hard enough, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Kawhisolation is mediocre

[Budkin]

Noticed he hasn't been giving it up on 2v1 breaks lately.

[RD2191]

OP dropping nukes.

[313]

But he's also one of our best passers. He make great decisions with the ball most times.

he has decent vision at best

[boutons_deux]

he will develop better passing, vision, etc. he'll learn to make others better.

[Kool Bob Love]

That's Pop's call.

[Malik Hairston]

It's a necessity during the meaningless regular season, tbh..Spurs need to experiment with different looks with the big 3's inconsistency in creating..

The Spurs aren't going to be able to play with the same ball movement and beautiful basketball as last year until everybody is on the same page, especially Diaw and Splitter, they have struggled this season..

I know NBA fans love to overrate and overreact to regular season basketball, but this is the time where you experiment..

[KL2]

He said in the post game he's still not 100% and rushed a few things, hasn't really been healthy all season long. I expect those jumpers to start falling as he gets back into shape as well as his 3 ball. Leonard sparks the offense with his defense and rebounding, he gets the ball, pushes it up court, creates havoc on the defense. Spurs get a mismatch, easy shot, score. Things like those won't show up on the stat sheet.

Leonard and this team are going to get better as time goes on, I'm already seeing Leonard being more vocal out there and defenses respecting him. Regular season is the time to make your mistakes and correct them.

[Hoops Czar]

He said in the post game he's still not 100% and rushed a few things, hasn't really been healthy all season long.

So he's making excuses. Parker never made excuses.

I expect those jumpers to start falling as he gets back into shape as well as his 3 ball. Leonard sparks the offense with his defense and rebounding, he gets the ball, pushes it up court, creates havoc on the defense. Spurs get a mismatch, easy shot, score. Things like those won't show up on the stat sheet.

Yes they do. They show up as a rebound, assist and two points.

Leonard and this team are going to get better as time goes on, I'm already seeing Leonard being more vocal out there and defenses respecting him.

Defenses have always respected his mid-range jumper.

Regular season is the time to make your mistakes and correct them.

Funny as how this doesn't apply to Parker.

[apalisoc_9]

Parker isn't 23 years old..

Hoops

[look_at_g_shred]

OP dropping nukes.

[look_at_g_shred]

Parker isn't 23 years old..

Hoops

Die in a fire got

[Hoops Czar]

Parker isn't 23 years old..

Hoops

Yet, you compare him to one

Soc

[apalisoc_9]

KL2 obviously implied experimentation. The only thing Parker should be experimenting with is his Role Player status..

Hoops

[KL2]

So he's making excuses. Parker never made excuses.

He's merely explaining why he's missed so many easy shots, such as point blank layups which have slipped out of his injured hand numerous times. Parker doesn't make excuses, he just gives up on his team, like last years playoffs sitting out games against OKC and POR, luckily MVP Leonard carried us.

Yes they do. They show up as a rebound, assist and two points.

Not if an extra pass is made. Leonard breaks down defense with his aggressive push off the rebound, creates mismatches for everybody on the court, he draws in the already mismatched defense, passes out, Spurs penetrate again suck in the already discombobulated defense, pass out, wide open 3. All you see is a Leonard rebound on the stat sheet.

Defenses have always respected his mid-range jumper.

They're starting to pay attention to him when he has the ball in any situation, he's starting to get a reputation as one of the best players in the league, the players know that's an MVP they're playing against. More defensive attention means less attention on his teammates. He's got the ability to post/rebound on almost anybody unlike Parker, making his defensive attention more valuable and unique.

Funny as how this doesn't apply to Parker.

Leonard is helping his team night after night, he's the MVP. His offense isn't coming at the cost of his teammates, he is making them all better. Leonard steps it up in the playoffs, Parker does not. Leonard is 23 years old, not even in his prime. Parker's had years and years to develop, he's not gonna get any better especially defensively where he's really fallen off.

It took Parker something like 7 years before he developed anything more than a layup/tear drop, 13 years to finally develop a damn 3pt shot which he takes in a select few situations, can't make that up. People can't even wait a few months with Leonard as the #1 option trying to develop chemistry and overall as a player lol, already more accomplished and developed than most players in the NBA.

[Hoops Czar]

He's merely explaining why he's missed so many easy shots, such as point blank layups which have slipped out of his injured hand numerous times. Parker doesn't make excuses, he just gives up on his team, like last years playoffs sitting out games against OKC and POR, luckily MVP Leonard carried us.



Not if an extra pass is made. Leonard breaks down defense with his aggressive push off the rebound, creates mismatches for everybody on the court, he draws in the already mismatched defense, passes out, Spurs penetrate again suck in the already discombobulated defense, pass out, wide open 3. All you see is a Leonard rebound on the stat sheet.



They're starting to pay attention to him when he has the ball in any situation, he's starting to get a reputation as one of the best players in the league, the players know that's an MVP they're playing against. More defensive attention means less attention on his teammates. He's got the ability to post/rebound on almost anybody unlike Parker, making his defensive attention more valuable and unique.



Leonard is helping his team night after night, he's the MVP. His offense isn't coming at the cost of his teammates, he is making them all better. Leonard steps it up in the playoffs, Parker does not. Leonard is 23 years old, not even in his prime. Parker's had years and years to develop, he's not gonna get any better especially defensively where he's really fallen off.

It took Parker something like 7 years before he developed anything more than a layup/tear drop, 13 years to finally develop a damn 3pt shot which he takes in a select few situations, can't make that up. People can't even wait a few months with Leonard as the #1 option trying to develop chemistry and overall as a player lol, already more accomplished and developed than most players in the NBA.

I really hate to be the one to break this to you, but Leonard's ONLY real value is his defense. He's not the great offensive threat you think he is. He has great teammates which in turn, makes Leonard a better player overall offensively. His teammates put him in a position to succeed. Nearly 63% of his FG's are assisted to this season yet, nobody gives credit to the passer. Unless Leonard's defender falls asleep, Kiwi takes a couple dribbles toward the paint, stops, a.) shoots a 15-footer b.)passes the ball out to the top of the key. Put Leonard in another uniform and make him the number 1 option, and he wouldn't be half the player he is today. Yet, we'll mock TP for taking mid range jumpers.

Parker gave up on his team but you nor I really can contest to the pain or discomfort Parker was feeling during the time in which you say "he gave up on his team". I guess that's convenient because it fits your narrative to a tee.

Btw, Leonard was essentially a lottery pick. Parker was the 28th pick overall. Kudos to the Spurs coaching staff for sticking with the 19 year-old and teaching him the game of basketball.

[apalisoc_9]

I really hate to be the one to break this to you, but Leonard's ONLY real value is his defense. He's not the great offensive threat you think he is. He has great teammates which in turn, makes Leonard a better player overall offensively. His teammates put him in a position to succeed. Nearly 63% of his FG's are assisted to this season yet, nobody gives credit to the passer. Unless Leonard's defender falls asleep, Kiwi takes a couple dribbles toward the paint, stops, a.) shoots a 15-footer b.)passes the ball out to the top of the key. Put Leonard in another uniform and make him the number 1 option, and he wouldn't be half the player he is today.

Parker gave up on his team but you nor I really can contest to the pain or discomfort Parker was feeling during the time in which you say "he gave up on his team". I guess that's convenient because it fits your narrative to a tee.

Btw, Leonard was essentially a lottery pick. Parker was the 28th pick overall. Kudos to the Spurs coaching staff for sticking with the 19 year-old and teaching him the game of basketball.

[DJR210]

I really hate to be the one to break this to you, but Leonard's ONLY real value is his defense. He's not the great offensive threat you think he is. He has great teammates which in turn, makes Leonard a better player overall offensively. His teammates put him in a position to succeed. Nearly 63% of his FG's are assisted to this season yet, nobody gives credit to the passer. Unless Leonard's defender falls asleep, Kiwi takes a couple dribbles toward the paint, stops, a.) shoots a 15-footer b.)passes the ball out to the top of the key. Put Leonard in another uniform and make him the number 1 option, and he wouldn't be half the player he is today. Yet, we'll mock TP for taking mid range jumpers.

Parker gave up on his team but you nor I really can contest to the pain or discomfort Parker was feeling during the time in which you say "he gave up on his team". I guess that's convenient because it fits your narrative to a tee.

Btw, Leonard was essentially a lottery pick. Parker was the 28th pick overall. Kudos to the Spurs coaching staff for sticking with the 19 year-old and teaching him the game of basketball.

Kawhi has more value than just defense