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James quit. Just like he did against the Celtics while in Cleveland.
"essentially"
James quit. Just like he did against the Celtics while in Cleveland.
2014 Spurs defense? Is this a joke
You guys got hot from 3 point land. I think the 2011 Mavericks take you in a 7-game series.
Kobe in the 80's = Jeff Malone. Real talk.
28 8 and 4 with a TS% north of 65 is quitting in your universe. That's funny. You're funny.
Duncan was fortunate he played in an era where post scoring was limited. He was one of the few since the league went perimeter oriented. Guys like Dirk and KG were jumpshooters with limited post moves. The best post player Duncan ever faced in the Finals was Rasheed Wallace
And they couldn't defend him, either.
He went up against a ton of great compe ion. Remember Amare Stoudemire from 2003-05? He was an automatic 35 points against the Spurs, but it didn't matter because Duncan was even better.Duncan was fortunate he played in an era where post scoring was limited. He was one of the few since the league went perimeter oriented. Guys like Dirk and KG were jumpshooters with limited post moves. The best post player Duncan ever faced in the Finals was Rasheed Wallace
Brad Daughtery went 19/9.5/3.7 in his career vs the likes of Ewing, Robinson, Dream, Parish, Cartwright (good defensive big), Eaton, and other good bigs in the '80s. I highly doubt Duncan would have faired much better. So to compare him to Brad is not so far fetched.
Duncan made a career feasting off mediocre bigs that were 3-4 inches shorter than him. The caliber of bigs in the '80s were light years (collectively) better than the ones Duncan faced in his career. So for you farmers to think Duncan would have beasted the bigs in the '80s, wow.
God, Lakerfan so ing annoying if you mention Jordan's Bulls and the Spurs in the same sentence. The only one who even has the privilege of being breathed in the same sentence with MJ, in their programmed little minds is their beloved cult-leader, KoMe.
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Right on the ticker.
Brad Daughtery went 19/9.5/3.7 in his career vs the likes of Ewing, Robinson, Dream, Parish, Cartwright (good defensive big), Eaton, and other good bigs in the '80s. I highly doubt Duncan would have faired much better. So to compare him to Brad is not so far fetched.
Duncan made a career feasting off mediocre bigs that were 3-4 inches shorter than him. The caliber of bigs in the '80s were light years (collectively) better than the ones Duncan faced in his career. So for you farmers to think Duncan would have beasted the bigs in the '80s, wow.
This. That's precisely why I say he couldn't hack it in the '80s. The Bulls, the Bad Boys, Knicks, Utah, and other tough defensive teams would have kicked his ass (literally). They would've gotten away with it too.
No, I'm on record as saying the best teams in NBA history are:God, Lakerfan so ing annoying if you mention Jordan's Bulls and the Spurs in the same sentence. The only one who even has the privilege of being breathed in the same sentence with MJ, in their programmed little minds is their beloved Master KoMe.
1) 1996 Bulls
2) 1987 Lakers
3) 1986 Celtics
I want to think the 1987 Lakers were the best, but:
1) 1996 Bulls lost 10 games by a TOTAL of 10 points
2) They had all NBA 1st team defenders at 3 positions
3) They had rebounders, shooters, versatile defenders, scorers - they were well put together.
The hype of that 1996 Bulls team is justified.
Like almost always, HH is right on. Spurs destroy teams that rely on one person as heavily as the Bulls relied on MJ. You have to have a big that can shoot the mid range, a KG or Dirk type guy. Spurs would have had a harder time against Bird's Celtics tbh.
It's naive to think today's teams give a about winning 72 games. The teams that get out in front by a wide margin rest their guys. Teams basically give away 10 or more games a year just to rest players. MJ was an egotistical, insecure person. He overvalued the regular season. He did great in the playoffs, but when he was playing even his RS games were highly watched, so he was always on point. Today, teams just mail it in, so you'll probably never see a record like that again. It's not an indication that the team was that dominant however.
So I guess the hype of Kirby after all these years isn't justified?
God, Lakerfan so ing annoying if you mention Jordan's Bulls and the Spurs in the same sentence. The only one who even has the privilege of being breathed in the same sentence with MJ, in their programmed little minds is their beloved cult-leader, KoMe.
the 87 Lakers would have destroyed both of those teams tbh
Or the 86 Celticsthe 87 Lakers would have destroyed both of those teams tbh
... No, but obviously one of you guys were going to bring up his name. And somebody did right when I posted, bag.
Cmon, let's be honest here. We're not talking about playing against an idiot like Durant who launches long jumpers all game long. We're talking about playing against two Westbrooks on steroids who actually had high b-ball IQs to go along with their skills
yeah them too
88 Pistons (should have beaten the Lakers that year tbh; Isiah was 1% after his injury and the refs screwed the Pistons at the end of game 6
Spurs in 6Cmon, let's be honest here. We're not talking about playing against an idiot like Durant who launches long jumpers all game long. We're talking about playing against two Westbrooks on steroids who actually had high b-ball IQs to go along with their skills
Kiwi will contain Jordan
The Bulls will not contain Green's three point shooting
Jordan will have a hard time with the Spurs' team defense
And then karma struck back when the Lakers' hamstrings departed them in 1989. That should've been a three-peat easily.
Quit mythologizing the 80's as some physical, defensive oriented era. Just because they occasionally took each other's heads off like barbarians doesn't mean physical play was the rule. Rewatch games from the period, and you'll see some of the worst defense imaginable. Hardly any double teams, chaotic team defense, God awful transition defense. Why do you think there were so many 28ppg+ scorers on 50% plus shooting during that time?
Brad Daughtery went 19/9.5/3.7 in his career vs the likes of Ewing, Robinson, Dream, Parish, Cartwright (good defensive big), Eaton, and other good bigs in the '80s. I highly doubt Duncan would have faired much better. So to compare him to Brad is not so far fetched.
Duncan made a career feasting off mediocre bigs that were 3-4 inches shorter than him. The caliber of bigs in the '80s were light years (collectively) better than the ones Duncan faced in his career. So for you farmers to think Duncan would have beasted the bigs in the '80s, wow.
McHale "beasted" on those same bigs, and Duncan's is a far superior version to McHale. But yeah, Duncan would struggle against the "amazing" bigs of the 80's where McHale didn't
Furthermore, I've already debunked your claim that Duncan "made a living" out of matching up against smaller players. He was always guarded by the opposing team's best interior post-defender, often facing double and triple teams. You should remember when they tried to put a prime Shaq on him and he torched him.
Cmon, let's be honest here. We're not talking about playing against an idiot like Durant who launches long jumpers all game long. We're talking about playing against two Westbrooks on steroids who actually had high b-ball IQs to go along with their skills
Pop will force them to shoot jumpers and again MJ would score 30 a night, Scottie 20 and then what ? In 96 bulls would have to expect 20 from kukoc and Kerr and in 92 from grant Cartwright ?
in defense obviously Scottie is elite and MJ was in 92 but Spurs ball movement in 2014 could score from anywhere with everybody.
the argument of Spurs went hot is ridiculous Spurs shot same than RS and were less efficient from 3s than 2013... This 2014 team is nowhere close to be 2011 mavs in terms of characteristic... Weak argument.
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