Lakers: How are they still allowed to be in the NBA

[Killakobe81]

If you can't tell this is all a PR move, then I feel pity for you.

To wit: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12...pretending-now



This is now being stated as fact by the press, which in itself is hilarious. Kobe's been doing this warrior facade since 2005, always saying how tough he is without saying how tough he is by relying on the press to do it. It's like he's the only player in the history of the league who plays with these little nicks and pain. Duncan is 38 years old, you think he is pain free the whole year and not tired in the playoffs? Manu is 36 with a lot of miles on him, but you NEVER hear about what a warrior they are. Robinson played with hip pointers the later half of his career guarding Shaq 1 on 1 in the paint and was called soft, Duncan played on two swollen ankles for half a year + playoffs in 2005 to a le, and yet nobody ever talks about Duncan being tough.

Doc Rivers spat a tooth out and continued playing in the playoffs. That's tough. John Starks snapped his finger back in place after dislocating it in a game, that's tough. Spreading rumors about playing with an injury all season long whenever he plays poorly, and then suddenness being fine when he strung together a few good games is not. There are no solid stats on these things, because there just can't be, but there are clear patterns built up over a decade. It's clear to anyone except the most delusional Kobestans.

BTW, just because something is not backed up by stats doesn't mean it's wrong.

It's all good, Amb despite our disagreements I still have some respect for you you can call me pathetic whatever. I just dont feel the need in to digging in to stuff like this you do and that is fine. I consider THAT pathetic or at the very least feminine, but I know that gets your skirt ruffled so I will leave it be. Like I said earlier you NEED Kobe so have at it ...and I agree stats never tell the whole story argue that all the time but digging for to fit your own agenda? That is not good either. Let's go back to not discussing Rotator cuff ... shall we? My only issue with you now (but of course you make this about Kobe as ALWAYS) is that this Laker team sucks. At least my boy Deeps admits that and slams Kobe for his own faults not made up ones ... I respect that and dont want to lose what respect I have left for you.

[ambchang]

It's all good, Amb despite our disagreements I still have some respect for you you can call me pathetic whatever. I just dont feel the need in to digging in to stuff like this you do and that is fine. I consider THAT pathetic or at the very least feminine, but I know that gets your skirt ruffled so I will leave it be. Like I said earlier you NEED Kobe so have at it ...and I agree stats never tell the whole story argue that all the time but digging for to fit your own agenda? That is not good either. Let's go back to not discussing Rotator cuff ... shall we? My only issue with you now (but of course you make this about Kobe as ALWAYS) is that this Laker team sucks. At least my boy Deeps admits that and slams Kobe for his own faults not made up ones ... I respect that and dont want to lose what respect I have left for you.

You got me all wrong. I don't go wake up one day and start randomly finding things to disparage Kobe. I make observations throughout my basketball watching life, and when incorrect statements are made that contradicts my observations (Robinson is soft, Kobe is a top 10 player, Lebron > Jordan, 90s ball is horrible, Bird was overrated, # of rings are an indication of greatness), I look up evidence to either backup or refute my own hypothesis. It just so happened Kobe gets discussed a LOT on these boards, and things about him are mostly incorrect, so I go argue about them.

As for the Lakers suck, I agree with you. They are a 30-win team. I don't know why you have a hard time processing that a 30 win team sucks. A 20 to 25 win team is usually the worst team in the league, and I don't think the Lakers are that with Philly, Wolves, Magic, Knicks and Jazz in the mix. It's a bad team, but not worst in the league bad, so they natural go the next tier up, a 30-win team. I just don't understand your obsession with arguing with a "Laker-hater" that said "Laker-hater" is overrating the Lakers. It's obscene.

And no, I don't think you are pathetic, I just think your hero worship deserves pity.

[ElNono]

El you got some lotto numbers for me?

you shoulda asked last Friday, tbh... 14 15 32 68 72 8

Seriously, Kobe has been doing the same PR stunt for years on end. This shouldn't surprise anyone at this stage, nor it should be "novel"...

[Killakobe81]

you shoulda asked last Friday, tbh... 14 15 32 68 72 8

Seriously, Kobe has been doing the same PR stunt for years on end. This shouldn't surprise anyone at this stage, nor it should be "novel"...

@ EL ...see a man with a sense of humor, awesome! I am not saying he did or didnt I am saying I dont care.

@ amb, I have no hero worship because I dont care. Remember I am the one that did not even remember exactly what pick Kobe was chosen with. I also was pro keeping him over Shaq but also pro trading him when he was ing the summer after 2007. I dont care if he maniplulates the media just like I dont care if they slam him now he is done. I dont fall for because Im a grown man and no longer idolize athletes for anything more or less than what they do on the court. I dont tweet Kobe, I dont buy his shoes. He was my 2nd fave Laker and that is all. IF Kobe was convicted of rape (not just accused) or child pornography I would care then but athletes that cheat, get cucked, are gay, good locker-room leaders none of that matters on the court or field. You dont believe he was injured doesnt matter because he is gonna be injured no matter how much longer he plays.

You seriously argued that Kobe was cherry picking games ... lets say he did WGAF? He didnt even play all that good in those games anyway. So if he he did, what does it matter? I originally did join here to defend him but at this point I dont really care as much ... he is done and the team is too. I just call you on your bull but I dont think I have the energy for that anymore my Laker focus is on the lottery, tbh.

[Fabbs]

You seriously argued that Kobe was cherry picking games ... lets say he did WGAF? He didnt even play all that good in those games anyway. So if he he did, what does it matter?

Ya, you'll still have your doll and Kobe anyways.