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    They're 14-7 with Durant. That's 56 wins transposed to a 82 game season.
    And a few of those games were Durant getting ramped back up. Problem is assuming they win 67% of games with Durant back, they only get to 47-35. Phoenix would have to go 20-15 or worse.

    That said, looking at PHX's schedule it's a VERY tough road ahead. Have to travel to both GS/POR twice and only 11 games against non-compe ive teams of the 35 remaining. A downside but possible outcome for them:

    8-3 11 games - 6 home / 5 road against non-compe ive teams (UTA x2, MIN x2, SAC x2, NYK, BKL, ORL, BOS, DEN)
    5-7 12 games - home/away with CHI, HOU, ATL, DAL, NO, SA
    2-4 6 games - home/away/away with GS & POR
    2-2 4 games - MEM, LAC at home; MIA, CLE on road
    0-2 2 games - 2 home vs. OKC (down 2-0, but both losses on road) - if they won both of these, would be a huge swing though put chances pretty low

    That would put them at 17-18 without tiebreaker. If they can hold home court against OKC twice, it'll go a long way for them.

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    And a few of those games were Durant getting ramped back up. Problem is assuming they win 67% of games with Durant back, they only get to 47-35. Phoenix would have to go 20-15 or worse.

    That said, looking at PHX's schedule it's a VERY tough road ahead. Have to travel to both GS/POR twice and only 11 games against non-compe ive teams of the 35 remaining.
    I said a while back I wasn't convinced OKC would make the playoffs, and partly because of the injury situation with them. They really are extremely top-heavy and I bet they rushed both KD and WB back from their injuries.

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    Durant's numbers last year when Westchimp went down were legendary. Surpassed Jordan in games with atleast 30+ Points in a row...

    Oh, and the team was winning. Who did OKC lose to yesterday?

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    They're 14-7 with Durant. That's 56 wins transposed to a 82 game season. So yeah, Durant not being there does matters. They're not a team that plays the beautiful game , because they're not built that way. They're built top heavy, and unfortunately for them, once either of those guys go down, they're screwed. When they were both injured to start the season, they had a rocking 3-12 record. Why would they give the ball to those guys?
    Where am I saying Durant not being there does not matter ?
    Im saying Durant present or not Westbrook Acts the same.
    btw when it's Westbrook it's fine cauz he does not have help when it's kobe a sg not a pg takes all the shot he is an horrible teammate... Make up your mind tbh

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    This thread is about me being a fan of Westbrook..why would you bump a thread after he has a bad game? It doesn't have anything to do with the point of the thread..
    Except you created this thread after a rs 2014-2015 huge game by Westbrook Not because of last year POs and I'm bumping this thread because Westchimp just lost against the freaking Knicks shooting as most of the time horribly.

    it's a honor to watch him taking 3,5 3s at a .257 clip worst of the league
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    damn I hate players fans

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    Westbrook > Enrique

    but Westbrook wouldn't fit in the Spurs system so..
    Are you serious?

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    There's some differences though. Kobe has been done for 2-3 years already, Westbrook and KD are currently top 10-15 talent in the league. And so they rely heavily on them, more than any system or role players, and they've had pretty good results that way.

    What I think they've done wrong lately is put even more work on them. Sefolosha was killing them on offense, but he was the guy that could take a defensive assignment and do it relatively well. Now he's gone and Westbrook has to do that on top of running the offense. It's crazy.

    But I'm glad you bring Kobe. If Westbrook would be anything like Kobe, he would've bull ted his way through a wrist injury and be making excuses why they missed the playoffs because he was "injured". You can dog on WB for his immaturity, poor shot selections, etc, but one thing he doesn't do is quit.

    ikr he is such a warrior... He just makes some childish drama once in a while on the bench, thinks he is the new MJ and Ray allen combined...but never quits... That's so beautiful

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    Where am I saying Durant not being there does not matter ?
    Im saying Durant present or not Westbrook Acts the same.
    But he doesn't. You're saying he takes 20 FGA when Durant is there and 30 FGA when he's not. While we can argue whether he should be taking 20 FGA when KD is there, it makes complete sense he'll shoot more when KD isn't there.

    btw when it's Westbrook it's fine cauz he does not have help when it's kobe a sg not a pg takes all the shot he is an horrible teammate... Make up your mind tbh
    That makes no sense. Kobe has a better player than himself in Swaggy P, who should be taking at least half of his shots. Westbrook doesn't have that in OKC. You could argue Reggie Jackson should have a more prominent role, but they're shipping his ass right now.

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    But he doesn't. You're saying he takes 20 FGA when Durant is there and 30 FGA when he's not. While we can argue whether he should be taking 20 FGA when KD is there, it makes complete sense he'll shoot more when KD isn't there.



    That makes no sense. Kobe has a better player than himself in Swaggy P, who should be taking at least half of his shots. Westbrook doesn't have that in OKC. You could argue Reggie Jackson should have a more prominent role, but they're shipping his ass right now.
    He already took near 30 FGAs with Durant present

    i can argue with Reggie Jackson yes... Shaggy P is such a great player

    westchimp was even chucking with 2 Mvps on the floor Durant and harden... Your Westchimp defense does not make sense

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    ikr he is such a warrior... He just makes some childish drama once in a while on the bench, thinks he is the new MJ and Ray allen combined...but never quits... That's so beautiful
    other players stare down teammates, it is what it is... he definitely needs to mature. But he's a beast on the floor, last game notwithstanding... all star too now...

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    Dude westchimp is a baller. Their coach is just so ing bad, they can't really do anything.

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    For the record I don't mind he takes 20 FGAs per game tbh... Now what's embarrasing is that he is a ty 3 pts shooter and continues to take 3,5 3s per game almost all contested

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    Westchimp is a top 10 player in the game.

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    He already took near 30 FGAs with Durant present

    i can argue with Reggie Jackson yes... Shaggy P is such a great player
    So he averages 20FGA with Durant or 30FGA?

    westchimp was even chucking with 2 Mvps on the floor Durant and harden... Your Westchimp defense does not make sense
    They made the Finals. Whatever he did with Durant and Harden, looks like it worked pretty well (at least better than we did).

    WCF again last season... I think he's done pretty well, considering coaching, etc...

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    For the record I don't mind he takes 20 FGAs per game tbh... Now what's embarrasing is that he is a ty 3 pts shooter and continues to take 3,5 3s per game almost all contested
    He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.

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    He's obviously not perfect, or the best player in the game, but he's only 26...

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    I'm starting to think that many of you haven't actually watched OKC games, tbh..

    Generally, if your team doesn't have a system and the PG is one of the top 2 options, it shouldn't be surprising that he takes a lot of shots in their ISO-centric sets..

    A lot of spoiled fans here that underestimate the impact of the Bud/Pop system at inflating above average PGs into "good/great" players..

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    He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.
    Dude is fast enough to get closer and get a better shot with 3 seconds..but he might not be smart enough.

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    other players stare down teammates, it is what it is... he definitely needs to mature. But he's a beast on the floor, last game notwithstanding... all star too now...
    Another subtle...

    He is an athletic beast but he has the IQ and maturity of a hot oyster

    its all good tho contrary to a certain poster I have no issue with player fans, let us proceed

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    He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.
    so that's a thing that happens to him then unless you find me another PG chucking 3,5 per game at .257 you speak out of your ass.. Not the first time it happens

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    Another subtle...

    He is an athletic beast but he has the IQ and maturity of a hot oyster

    its all good tho contrary to a certain poster I have no issue with player fans, let us proceed
    I used to love Nash running SSOL with the Suns... it was fun to watch, even though I wanted them to lose against us. Nothing wrong with appreciating talent around the league, IMO.

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    Dude is fast enough to get closer and get a better shot with 3 seconds..but he might not be smart enough.
    He is human. He might not have the lungs of deep sea divers. We can't ask him to drive every time he touches the ball.

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    so that's a thing that happens to him then unless you find me another PG chucking 3,5 per game at .257 you speak out of your ass.. Not the first time it happens
    Appreciating another pg doesn't mean you love your hero pg less tbh.

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    Watching him drive reminds me of prime Gino or Rose in his MVP season, tbh... that first step and you know you can't stop him. The downside is you know that's gonna take a toll.

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    Who is he going to pass it to? We know okc has no other options besides him and durant. If he passes it off to durant, now he'll have less time.

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