Lakers: Wayne Ellington

[midnightpulp]

Lakers got a nice upgrade at the starting SG spot with this guy. 17ppg on 52% over his last 5 games.

Could hurt their tanking efforts.

[Malik Hairston]

You can hate Kobe and all, but Swaggy C is a much worse player and cancer IMO..

[StrengthAndHonor]

You can hate Kobe and all, but Swaggy C is a much worse player and cancer IMO..

Never thought that was possible but Swaggy's assist to shot ratio is about to hit historic records.

[Splits]

You can hate Kobe and all, but Swaggy C is a much worse player and cancer IMO..

WTF are you talking about?







gy "shoe house" P is a horrible basketball player, but he's been a net-positive on the court while Kirby has been a massive net-negative.

[ElNono]

You can hate Kobe and all, but Swaggy C is a much worse player and cancer IMO..

Not than current Kobe... over Kobe's career, I would agree.

[Malik Hairston]

WTF are you talking about?







gy "shoe house" P is a horrible basketball player, but he's been a net-positive on the court while Kirby has been a massive net-negative.

Those numbers aren't adjusted for teammates..

Kobe's RAPM is much better than Swaggy C's this season..

[Splits]

Those numbers aren't adjusted for teammates..

Kobe's RAPM is much better than Swaggy C's this season..

Sample size is PLENTY big enough to compensate for lineups.

It would be one thing if they were within an acceptable margin of error, like +/- 5 pts. But gy is beasting him on a 17pt differential, you can't ignore that.

[spurraider21]

Those numbers aren't adjusted for teammates..

Kobe's RAPM is much better than Swaggy C's this season..

i'll bite. what's the C for? knowing you, my top guess is coon

[Malik Hairston]

Sample size is PLENTY big enough to compensate for lineups.

It would be one thing if they were within an acceptable margin of error, like +/- 5 pts. But gy is beasting him on a 17pt differential, you can't ignore that.

That's irrelevant, those are unadjusted numbers, which are heavily flawed..it doesn't compensate for lineups..

Kobe has been one of the worst players in the league this season, but so has Swaggy..

[Malik Hairston]

i'll bite. what's the C for? knowing you, my top guess is coon

Really?

[spurraider21]

Really?

Really.

[Malik Hairston]

Really.

Black man dating a woman that has created a career from mocking Black culture..

[midnightpulp]

That's irrelevant, those are unadjusted numbers, which are heavily flawed..it doesn't compensate for lineups..

Kobe has been one of the worst players in the league this season, but so has Swaggy..

Is ESPN's RPM essentially the equivalent to RaPM?

It has Swaggy at -1.13 and Kobe at -2.31.

[Splits]

Is ESPN's RPM essentially the equivalent to RaPM?

It has Swaggy at -1.13 and Kobe at -2.31.

no it's not adjusted

[midnightpulp]

no it's not adjusted

I believe it is:

RPM stats are provided by Jeremias Engelmann in consultation with Steve Ilardi. RPM is based on Engelmann's xRAPM (Regularized Adjusted Plus-Minus). Play-by-play data provided by Basketball-Reference.com.

[Malik Hairston]

Is ESPN's RPM essentially the equivalent to RaPM?

It has Swaggy at -1.13 and Kobe at -2.31.

http://www.gotbuckets.com/2014/04/14...n-rpm-results/

[Splits]

Kirby played with the same teammates against the same opponents as gy

If you look at their on/off metrics, gy is a minor positive and Kobe is a major negative

But Harlem has to reach to backup his "Kobe is top 10" schtick, so he plays the "RAPM" card without producing any evidence of where he is getting his numbers

His agenda is pretty clear

Until he produces the maths, he's full of and just on another one of his bull trolling schticks

who is the worst starting PG in the past 50 years Enrique or Rose

[Splits]

http://www.gotbuckets.com/2014/04/14...n-rpm-results/

Ok, so you've provided the "definition"

Where are the numbers?

[Malik Hairston]

what the ? I just said Kobe has been one of the worst players in the league, this season..

How does outplaying Swaggy C change that?

[Splits]

what the ? I just said Kobe has been one of the worst players in the league, this season..

How does outplaying Swaggy C change that?

Ok, so you've provided the "definition"

Where are the numbers?

[Malik Hairston]

Oh wait, fail, tbh..I was looking at the wrong link..

They have virtually the same RAPM, this season, but Kobe is still superior, as he has way more possessions and minutes..

[Malik Hairston]

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com...RAPM_2015.html

[midnightpulp]

http://www.gotbuckets.com/2014/04/14...n-rpm-results/

Any sites have this year's 2014-15 RAPM numbers?

[midnightpulp]

Any sites have this year's 2014-15 RAPM numbers?

N/M, saw your reply above.

[Malik Hairston]

Young -0.6 approx 3000 possessions
Kobe -0.8 approx 4500 possessions

Young 15.5 PER
Kobe 17.5 PER

Young -0.2 VORP
Kobe 1.6 VORP