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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Rondo is indeed much worse, IMO. That said, it's arguable if Rondo ever had Tony's talent.

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    There's more than that, IMO, and unfortunately, a lot has to do with him. Things like the Brent Barry incident was very unspurlike, whether you think it was a player move or not, then coming out and saying the Spurs were good, but no longer be contending, basically throwing Tim and Manu under the bus... stopping a bottle with his eye on some new york nightclub... taunting Miami about Green then trying to seize the spotlight... it's not all fair, Tim always has been the franchise and a quiet guy, Manu has that latino connection, but Tony never had that kind of leeway to pull off that kinda stuff... and frankly, the legend of Speedy Claxton predates 2004, tbh...

    That's not to say fans don't appreciate his contributions to the franchise. He'll get his jersey retired and inducted in the HoF, deservedly so.
    I agree with what you said but I was just stating to Killa when all the hatred started for Tony started. I have learned over the years to take the bad with the good that comes with Tony. Granted now he looks washed up so I can understand why people hate him.

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    This is where I understand you don't watch the ing spurs. Tony is the worst starting pg this year. This isn't tony hate, this is tony acknowledgement.
    I already admitted that I havent seen the spurs much this year and I think when I have he either didn't play or did not play well. But your point would make sense if the tony hate started THIS year. It did not. And I still think he is better than Pat Bev, Rondo, Jameer Nelson, Ronnie Price, Lin and a bunch of other starters at PG.

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    I already admitted that I havent seen the spurs much this year and I think when I have he either didn't play or did not play well. But your point would make sense if the tony hate started THIS year. It did not. And I still think he is better than Pat Bev, Rondo, Jameer Nelson, Ronnie Price, Lin and a bunch of other starters at PG.
    You said 25 teams. That is nowhere near the 5-6 teams that might have a worse starting pg than tony. And it is a mul ude of reasons to be upset at the situation. He is the highest paid spur as of right now and will probably have the second highest contract in the future is alarming. A championship team will be leeched by tony in the future too. His current play will definitely have an outcome on this playoff run. Also. all this tony bashing would subside if it wasnt for thegreat got and hater and others trying to make fun of everyone else so people in turn bash their favorite player.

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    You said 25 teams. That is nowhere near the 5-6 teams that might have a worse starting pg than tony. And it is a mul ude of reasons to be upset at the situation. He is the highest paid spur as of right now and will probably have the second highest contract in the future is alarming. A championship team will be leeched by tony in the future too. His current play will definitely have an outcome on this playoff run. Also. all this tony bashing would subside if it wasnt for thegreat got and hater and others trying to make fun of everyone else so people in turn bash their favorite player.
    The 25 was based on Tony of the past few years. I cannot deny I havent seen him play much this year and when I have KL, tim and Danny Green have been more impressive and impactful on wins and losses. I was just making an observation prior to this year the Tony hate did not match his production imho. You guys watch them for 82 plus the playoffs, you know the team and Tony better than I do. But I am also not burdened with the sting of having him play bad in a game that meant something to me. I have no reason to defend Tony I dont even like him but I have seen him get in grooves where for short to long bursts where he looks like the best player on the floor in both regular and playoff games versus good compe ion.

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    God dammit, right when I'm starting to hate Parker I read this . PLAY BETTER TP!

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