Hawks: When The Streak Ends...

[apalisoc_9]

Two straight years and still thinks it's an exception..

Teams trying to play like the spurs but still thinks it's an exception..

Sure the reality is that it's a LOT easier to run a superstar lead team, but the spurs implemented another way to do it and the Hawks are implementing the same thing..whether or not they succeed, doesn't really matter as most teams now are looking to implement the same system.

[rocknblues81]

Two straight years and still thinks it's an exception..

Teams trying to play like the spurs but still thinks it's an exception..

Sure the reality is that it's a LOT easier to run a superstar lead team, but the spurs implemented another way to do it and the Hawks are implementing the same thing..whether or not they succeed, doesn't really matter as most teams now are looking to implement the same system.

Like I said, a couple of years vs. basically the rest of NBA history.

[apalisoc_9]

Like I said, a couple of years vs. basically the rest of NBA history.

More like the most recent vs Old school..

[100%duncan]

This isn't Miami Lebron tbh. Sure Bron can go ape on the playoffs but he ain't getting the defense and the supporting cast that Miami provided.

[rocknblues81]

This isn't Miami Lebron tbh. Sure Bron can go ape on the playoffs but he ain't getting the defense and the supporting cast that Miami provided.

Miami had no big man that could defend and rebound in Miami. He does have that now.

No big man made it easy for the Spurs in the finals last year.

However, like last night... When you have big men the perimeter defenders can guard the perimeter offensive players without having to worry about defending the paint. Plus, it becomes easier to clog passing lanes and such.

[100%duncan]

Miami had no big man that could defend and rebound in Miami. He does have that now.

No big man made it easy for the Spurs in the finals last year.

However, like last night... When you have big men the perimeter defenders can guard the perimeter offensive players without having to worry about defending the paint. Plus, it becomes easier to clog passing lanes and such.

Are you really trying to compare the Heat's and Cleveland's defense?

Cleveland had that but now he's injured for the season. Mozgov is still unproven and slow. Love is a traffic cone. Kyrie is a one way player. Lebron is on chill mode on defense.

No way can one argue otherwise even after considering big men defenders. Even Heat had a non liablity in Bosh and Andersen.

[rocknblues81]

Are you really trying to compare the Heat's and Cleveland's defense?

Cleveland had that but now he's injured for the season. Mozgov is still unproven and slow. Love is a traffic cone. Kyrie is a one way player. Lebron is on chill mode on defense.

No way can one argue otherwise even after considering big men defenders. Even Heat had a non liablity in Bosh and Andersen.

I'm saying Cleveland has someone that can block shots and rebound. Lebron did not have that in Miami. Plus, Tristin Thompson gives them athleticism and rebounding off the bench.

The Hawks have nothing off the bench in terms of athletic or rebounding ability. I'm sorry, but you need to be able to rebound in the playoffs when you don't have great players. Games tighten up, scoring goes down and every possession becomes more important.

Lebron has been to the finals and won les... All Teague, Horford and Millsap have is an all star appearance.

[Clipper Nation]

You think the Hawks are beating Lebron in the playoffs? It's not happening.

I could see it happening. It'll be like the Finals last year... LeBron going Cleveland Mode, but it isn't enough because all the fake stars and scrubs around him pull a vanishing act.

[100%duncan]

I'm saying Cleveland has someone that can block shots and rebound. Lebron did not have that in Miami.

And Im saying that that guy is Mozgov and that the Heat were actually a good sometimes elite defensive team overall.

[rocknblues81]

And Im saying that that guy is Mozgov and that the Heat were actually a good sometimes elite defensive team overall.

It's easier to look like a great defensive team when you can slow the game down and control the tempo.

Bosh is not a good defensive player. They had no real center at all and they were the worst rebounding team in the NBA basically. Their weaknesses finally caught up to them.

Spurs ball won a le last year, but it also nearly got knocked out in the first round and it didn't win the several years before that. Meanwhile, Lebron has went to 4 straight finals.

[100%duncan]

Ok, put the Spurs in the east and they do the same.

[rocknblues81]

I heard people saying the same thing after Detroit took out The Lakers.

"Oh, it's a new game! No more super teams!"

Sorry, I need more proof.

[Calispursfan11]

The ATL with an impressive bounceback. Perhaps my prediction was wrong.

[rocknblues81]

The ATL with an impressive bounceback. Perhaps my prediction was wrong.

Charlotte just beat Washington. Washington is not that good.

[rogues]

Charlotte just beat Washington. Washington is not that good.

Cute little Hawk fan here, tbh..who the are you and where did you come from?..

[rocknblues81]

Cute little Hawk fan here, tbh..who the are you and where did you come from?..

Nothing for you to worry about.

[Calispursfan11]

Cute little Hawk fan here, tbh..who the are you and where did you come from?..

Didn't you just announce your retirement from spurstalk drama queen?

[rogues]

Nothing for you to worry about.

got

[rocknblues81]

got

Your girlfriend does not agree.

Oh, and if you're so intent on finding out more about me... Just ask her.

[Venti Quattro]

rocknblues81 maybe you kind of need to put a little more faith in your Hawks tbh

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rocknblues81 maybe you kind of need to put a little more faith in your Hawks tbh

[lefty]

I see them dropping a bunch of games right after just like every other team that has a long winning streak (for instance going 6-4 or 4-6 after the streak ends). The bubble pops so guys take it easy/lose confidence and snap back into the reality of their limitations. This is a historic streak but it's obviously not sustainable.

Luckily for the Hawks the East is a JV league in comparison to the West and there is still plenty of season left for them to regain their footing after the streak ends. They will still end up 1 or 2 seed in the East but the Wizards, Cavs and Raptors will make a run at them.

My nuggah

Hawks won 12 straight against west

I can see why you are a Parker fan

I remember when the rockets won 21 games or so just a few years ago

This Hawks team is better. But they are not beating Cleveland in 7 games.

Yup

Cleveland's defense needs to improve even more if they plan on beating the Hawks in a playoff series imho. Lebron will be beasting again by then but he can't do it alone anymore. The other two of the Cavs big three are not what Wade and Bosh were tbh.

he doesnt really need them tbh

Don't underestimate a team that moves the ball and has solid role guys, top notch outside shooters and a coach.

got

The Hawks are legit. It's more to do with coaching and the team makeup than anything else, which is unlike the rockets that was heavily reliant on two players (TMac and Yao), or a player going on a tremendous hot streak that he has no business having (Jennings with the Pistons, Lin with the Knicks, etc ....).

The Hawks are like a hydra, you cut off one head, and there's still 4 heads, you can't really kill it that easily, and the chances of all of their players struggling at the same time is minimal.

That said, they are heavily dependent on Horford, like GSW is reliant on Bogut. Horford had some health issues, and once he goes, the Hawks have no chance in the playoffs and would become very vulnerable.

well....

Lebrons kryptonite is teams that move the ball well. He can't defend all 5 positions. He lost to the mavs, spurs (should've been twice). The only team he handled well was the ball stopping no offense thunder.

Hawks have a legit chance against them because its not just a good offense. It's a really good offense with solid players.

The question for the hawks is how will the handle not have that one go to guy in the final moments of games. Hopefully someone takes up that role in the playoffs before they meet.

I don't see the logic in that seeing the Hawks are stacked with players with playoff experience. More so veteran experience.

Cleveland was a lottery team for the past 5 plus years. The Hawks also dominated Cleveland twice in the deeper into the season. I don't even see how Cleveland has anything to do with any of this since they didn't even make it to the playoffs last season and are a team ran by two players.

Cleveland's relevance is solely based by one person which is pretty sad. Kind of like that team in the south that has become a ghost.

The Cavs have won 10 straight..not as impressive as when the hawks have done for half a season.


The only thing the Hawks have to worry about when it comes to the Cavaliers in the playoffs is the officiating which lord knows will be god awful on their side.

The Bulls on the other hand are starting to collapse on themselves. The Raptors are on the quiet tear because no one ever notices them. The Wizards are hanging in there.

Honestly, if you believe a Wade less LeBron can win a championship, be my guest to follow that team as blindly as media psychologists and social psychologists strategically stuff it into your simple-minded head.

[Venti Quattro]

rocknblues81 maybe you kind of need to put a little more faith in your Hawks tbh

Venti Quattro

[rocknblues81]

I'm saying Cleveland has someone that can block shots and rebound. Lebron did not have that in Miami. Plus, Tristin Thompson gives them athleticism and rebounding off the bench.

The Hawks have nothing off the bench in terms of athletic or rebounding ability. I'm sorry, but you need to be able to rebound in the playoffs when you don't have great players. Games tighten up, scoring goes down and every possession becomes more important.

Lebron has been to the finals and won les... All Teague, Horford and Millsap have is an all star appearance.

rocknblues81 maybe you kind of need to put a little more faith in your Hawks tbh

I stand by what I said months ago.

[Stevie Johnson]

I stand by what I said months ago.

LOL remember when our regular season game was lauded as a potential finals preview? I laughed at that because they included the Hawks. All season long everyone knew they were flawed.