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He can still get to the rim, still can finish, just needs to pick his spots and pace himself. He is not as quick as he once was, but he is not crawling around out there as people make it seem.
I agree with that but considering ST last couple of months, I'd give a pass for the people who are cautious when checking in a new thread with Parker and impartial.
I confessed I was expecting in the OP to find something like Parker is an egomaniac piece of , I also checked it twice to make sure to not find some subtle ala nono before giving a take on it.
He can still get to the rim, still can finish, just needs to pick his spots and pace himself. He is not as quick as he once was, but he is not crawling around out there as people make it seem.
That's just half of it. He can't defend whatsoever and teams are taking advantage of that. That is never going to change.
What games are you watching?
Obviously he gets to the rim every now and then, even dudes like Andre Miller do, but the Enrique that made a living off of it is long gone.
Niether can Patty or Marco, should they be traded?
Patty can play defense. I don't know where this myth came from, and patty is a great offensive player. From last season and playoffs and now this season. His numbers are actually great.
Marco is another cancer. Bad choice. We could be using that spot and salary on something else.
So cut him and pay him to play elsewhere?
If he is as done as you claim, who is going to trade for him?
Letting him go and getting nothing back would be the end of the Spurs repeat quest. Spurs need to be 100% come playoff time. Once they get that ball movement going he (and everyone else) will have a lot more open looks.
How could you blame the FO ?
Except for geniuses like Harlem, FO and fans saw a Parker having a meh POs but showing on some games he could be dominant as and just control a PO game from beginning to end. He had some stuff bothering him, so all included Parker attributed his inconsistency to that. Signing him an extension in this context was perfectly fine.
Now 6 months later injuries are lagging, he cannot find rythm, he struggles on Defense, cannot properly pick his spot where he wants, he let the defense dictate what to do. Saying he is doing nothing to adapt is BS, dude visibly worked his ass off to build a 3 pts with good success but his lack of legs kill his offense and more surprisingly kill his playmaking (I always said Parker needs to feel good scoring to feel good globally in D and play making).
So now it's easy to say dat extension sucks.
I still don't burry the guy, Manu went through tough time too and he gave this amazing POs run for a guy of his age. Parker has not the overall talent but if it is a matter of adapting, working his ass off he will do it, if it is a matter of being done physically... it's over and I will be always appreciative for all those years... At one point it is becoming worthless to shoot the ambulance
Tony is by no means, done. But unlike Timmy and Manu, he does rely on more his natural athletism, speed in this case. So it would be much harder for him to remain his efficiency when he gets older.
ive been on record that parker's decline concerns me quite a bit, that he's had a negative impact for most of this season, and his extension already looks terrible, but this whole shtick that has overtaken upstairs is just played out
Slap to the face to all the great players we have on this team.
timvp made a similar "predictive" post about two years ago...
Except in the NBA if you cut a guy you still have to pay them. Teams are reluctant to trade with the Spurs, you really think they could trade Tony and Marco for something better and still have a shot at repeating? I don't. And quiet frankley, I want the Spurs to repeat more than I have ever wanted anything in sports.
Lol at parker being fine...
I wouldn't mind Parker if he isn't taking 9 more shots than Kawhi..
But we all know this guy still thinks he's a supersar or some ..
Trade his Ass before Kawhi decides he's had enough of Parker's ballhogging.
The opposite is the problem in terms of Parker threads. The issue is not Parker "supporters" (i.e. normal, mentally balanced Spur fans) complaining about the Parker threads or being in denial about his declining play.
The issue is that the Parker haters are extremely offended at the suggestion that (1) Parker was still a top-50ish player in the NBA in the 2013-2014 season, and had an overall good playoffs, and (2) that even a declined Parker can still be of value.
The hyperbole from the hater crowd wears thin, is unintellectual, and reeks of playing to a pathetic crowd of alts and trolls.
All that said, I think the original post is just fine. Stating the obvious about age, of course, and still premature, but generally decent informed speculation.
Not at all. The Spurs need to have all their pieces going to win it all, I don't see how you could argue differently. The is a complaiment to the entire roster.
I somewhat agree. Kawhi definately needs more shots and Tony needs less. However, they should not trade him because I don't think they would get anything good for him tbh.
I don't know if you watched but the spurs can't get a ing lead with tony ing parker out there in the first quarter. It's right in your face. I don't know how you can't see it.
The spurs and manu have to work overtime just cause the team needs to carry parker like a ing geriatric.
Harlem you said you would stop posting. To think I got all excited too.
Tony isn't old, he's just trying to play out of his game. Don't do what your body won't let you do anymore.
Watched every game last year. Yes that is true, which is why I think he needs to shoot a little less and get others (namely Kawhi and Tim) more shots. But I think that will come, I mean they have the best coach in basketball. But straight up cutting him would be a bad idea. That is the whole point I am trying to make.
Limit his role. If he's statistically been one of the five worst players in the league and both Patty+Cojo have been better options then play them more.
I couldn't give two s about showing loyalty to anyone outside of Timmy/Manu. Play the best guys, I want my Spurs to repeat.
other than eventual cap space
Exactly!
He will figure it out.
another solid post tbh.... dat nigg Brazil... amazing takes after amazing takes
That's why he is Easily one of the most dominant posters in spurstalk history..
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