Do the Parkersuckers straight up deny that we've been a better team with Mills/Cojo?

[ChumpDumper]

I am still making it about ChumpDumper.

[Sean Cagney]

2015 and posters still fall in Chump's net

hilarious tbh

As for OP, ya this year nobody is denying it... at this point actual RMJ would be better than TP at the PG position

Yeah, Tony is pretty bad this year to say the least. Nobody can deny it.

[Ignignokt]

Last word!!! 90k posts -No Life For Life es!

[ChumpDumper]

I'm still making this about ChumpDumper.

[Ignignokt]

I can't help myself! Last Word is mine!!!

[ohmwrecker]

You guys are so gay for each other.

[EVAY]

Kawhi is great and we are lucky to have him, but outside of possibly the last 3 games of the finals, he has not shown he can carry this team as "the man". Kawhi just isn't there yet. The only way this team can win, is how they did last year... exquisite, perfectly executed team basketball.

This take is true, and is gutsy to post on this board (because lots of Kawhi fans are less Spurs fans than Kawhi fans and so it will be taken as a hit to Kawhi, although I don't believe that you intended it as a kick to Kawhi, but simply as a statement about where things stand at this very moment).

Kawhi may get to the point where he is able to carry the team on a regular basis, but that has not been shown yet. Tim has carried the team this year as much or more than anyone else. I think Kawhi is the best athlete on our team right now, and I HOPE that he gets to the point you are describing. But I agree with the observation that he is just not quite there yet. Getting closer, maybe. But not quite there just this minute.

Plus, regarding the OP. I love Patty like crazy, and I want to see him early and often in games. However, having said that, the man is not a point guard. What so many posters herein seem to fail to recognize is that when Patty comes in with all his energy and chaos ensues, we are sometimes harder to defend because we are not playing our offensive sets. Manu runs the offensive sets. Patty does not. And I believe that is both a good thing and a less-than good thing. Good because it confuses the defenses and they don't respond to the change in pace and style as quickly as our second unit gets into their chaotic 'anything goes' offensive style very quickly. Bad because Pop wants his plays run, and that is not Patty's strength.

Patty and Cojo each have great strengths for our team. Those strengths are complementary; as such they can not really back each other up.

Another thing that posters fail to take into account is that, for the most part, we are getting outscored by the other teams' front lines. Not their guards. The guards may get their points eventually, but that is not how the big holes have been developing. Posters with 'beat-the-notion-into-the-ground-forever' agendas interpret every single thing that goes wrong with the team in any given game to one player, and everything that goes right to the replacement for that one player. It is not objective. It is not good observation. And it is tedious in the extreme.

[Nathan89]

Spurs without Parker: 7-7 50%
Spurs with Parker: 24-11 69%

No we are not a better team

Kawhi fans this because you love blindly mentioning this as well.

[RD2191]

Lol, got chump getting owned per usual.

[ohmwrecker]

If it was possible to take Patty and Cojo and meld them together into one PG, I would trade Parker but...



Wait... still wouldn't have a PG that can pass. Never mind.

[ChumpDumper]

SBM!

[Cry Havoc]

This take is true, and is gutsy to post on this board (because lots of Kawhi fans are less Spurs fans than Kawhi fans and so it will be taken as a hit to Kawhi, although I don't believe that you intended it as a kick to Kawhi, but simply as a statement about where things stand at this very moment).

Kawhi may get to the point where he is able to carry the team on a regular basis, but that has not been shown yet. Tim has carried the team this year as much or more than anyone else. I think Kawhi is the best athlete on our team right now, and I HOPE that he gets to the point you are describing. But I agree with the observation that he is just not quite there yet. Getting closer, maybe. But not quite there just this minute.

Plus, regarding the OP. I love Patty like crazy, and I want to see him early and often in games. However, having said that, the man is not a point guard. What so many posters herein seem to fail to recognize is that when Patty comes in with all his energy and chaos ensues, we are sometimes harder to defend because we are not playing our offensive sets. Manu runs the offensive sets. Patty does not. And I believe that is both a good thing and a less-than good thing. Good because it confuses the defenses and they don't respond to the change in pace and style as quickly as our second unit gets into their chaotic 'anything goes' offensive style very quickly. Bad because Pop wants his plays run, and that is not Patty's strength.

Patty and Cojo each have great strengths for our team. Those strengths are complementary; as such they can not really back each other up.

Another thing that posters fail to take into account is that, for the most part, we are getting outscored by the other teams' front lines. Not their guards. The guards may get their points eventually, but that is not how the big holes have been developing. Posters with 'beat-the-notion-into-the-ground-forever' agendas interpret every single thing that goes wrong with the team in any given game to one player, and everything that goes right to the replacement for that one player. It is not objective. It is not good observation. And it is tedious in the extreme.

Holy .


Post of the month award right here.

[Agloco]

Or what tbh? Not trolling just trying to understand the psyche of a playerfan that supports TP no matter what. The small sample size doesn't work any more. The we can't win unless Tony is 100% ignores last year's playoffs. The "patty needs a ball handler" doesn't work since Cory has been leagues better than TP this year.

We've gone on huge runs every time Patty has come in for Tony. I understand hoping for TP to improve. I just don't get the player fans that are still calling us Patty/Cojo advocates cliff jumpers. It's been enough games. Tony isn't coming back.

[hater]