Brady the GOAT

[Clipper Nation]

If there is 2 minutes to go in the game and we are down by 4 on our 5 yard line and I can call in any QB to win this for me......Joe Montana.

If there's 24 seconds left and we only need to complete a one-yard pass to seal the ring, I definitely don't want Struggle Wilson

[Avante]

If there's 24 seconds left and we only need to complete a one-yard pass to seal the ring, I definitely don't want Struggle Wilson

You do know that since he came in the league he has had more GWD than anyone, right? Of course you don't. Just think, he averages 5 a year because he has 15. If he played 15 seasons lie Peyton....75~! Peyton has 52.

Does your pea brain ever......what happens if this guys wins a coople more SB's, I;m going to look totally stupid....it doesn't does it?

Getting back to Montana.

1:20 on

[Phillip]

You do know that since he came in the league he has had more GWD than anyone, right? Of course you don't. Just think, he averages 5 a year because he has 15. If he played 15 seasons lie Peyton....75~! Peyton has 52.

Are you stupid? Who the taught you your math?

If you want to do this math angle correctly, the best way to do it would to take the games started, and divide it by GWD, to get an estimate of how frequently they get GWD.

With the math, both would have a GWD in approximately 1 in every 5 games. Montana was about one tenth of a percent higher than Peyton, which means that if he started 252 games like Peyton did, he would have around 52 or 53, just like Peyton... not 75. And he certainly had nowhere near an average of 5 GWD a season. In fact, the most Joe ever had in a single season was 5.

[Aztecfan03]

Are you stupid? Who the taught you your math?

If you want to do this math angle correctly, the best way to do it would to take the games started, and divide it by GWD, to get an estimate of how frequently they get GWD.

With the math, both would have a GWD in approximately 1 in every 5 games. Montana was about one tenth of a percent higher than Peyton, which means that if he started 252 games like Peyton did, he would have around 52 or 53, just like Peyton... not 75. And he certainly had nowhere near an average of 5 GWD a season. In fact, the most Joe ever had in a single season was 5.

He was talking about Russell Wilson.

[Avante]

Are you stupid? Who the taught you your math?

If you want to do this math angle correctly, the best way to do it would to take the games started, and divide it by GWD, to get an estimate of how frequently they get GWD.

With the math, both would have a GWD in approximately 1 in every 5 games. Montana was about one tenth of a percent higher than Peyton, which means that if he started 252 games like Peyton did, he would have around 52 or 53, just like Peyton... not 75. And he certainly had nowhere near an average of 5 GWD a season. In fact, the most Joe ever had in a single season was 5.

Try paying attention ok slick? I wasn't takling about Montana.....ok?

[Phillip]

Try paying attention ok slick? I wasn't takling about Montana.....ok?

Well slick, then that's just even more laughable, considering how mediocre Wilson is in any situation where he has to carry a team, yet you think he is worth defending

[Avante]

Well slick, then that's just even more laughable, considering how mediocre Wilson is in any situation where he has to carry a team, yet you think he is worth defending

You mean the guy who already has 15 GWD the most in the league since he arrived? Why the...."I;m stupid"...routine?

Just think your Chiefs have been around since they were the Dallas Texans in 1960 and RW already has as many SB wins ,hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Saying Struggle has as many Super Bowl wins as the Chiefs is like saying that Devin Brown has as many rings as the Blazers. They're not "your" rings if you play a miniscule supporting role and don't significantly impact the game.

[Avante]

Saying Struggle has as many Super Bowl wins as the Chiefs is like saying that Devin Brown has as many rings as the Blazers. They're not "your" rings if you play a miniscule supporting role and don't significantly impact the game.

So ya missed the game winning pass vs GB, right? So ya missed that big drop by Kearse, right in his hands....right? So ya turned off the volumn and missed......

Russell Wilson is special

Wilson putting on a show

Right?

Dude, you really are a ing dummy.

[Clipper Nation]

So ya missed the game winning pass vs GB, right?

So you missed the 8-22 passing performance, 4 picks, and 5 sacks in regulation, right?

So ya missed that big drop by Kearse, right in his hands....right?

So you missed Struggle ing up a one-yard pass with the championship on the line, right?

[Avante]

So you missed the 8-22 passing performance, 4 picks, and 5 sacks in regulation, right?


So you missed Struggle ing up a one-yard pass with the championship on the line, right?

Why act like you don't know 2 of those 4 were once again right off the hands of Kearse? Just think little man, what if Kearse catchs those two and the one Sunday?

Damn little guy, you take...DUH!!!!!!!...to a whole other level.

[HI-FI]

"....fans have been critical of his ability to throw deep..."

Lol Montana nut huggers

I appreciate his greatness but be real about it.

damn, such beautiful touch on the ball. I can see why Rice had a hard time getting used to Young's passes.

Montana was also much better at scrambling and improvising than Brady.

[monosylab1k]

damn, such beautiful touch on the ball. I can see why Rice had a hard time getting used to Young's passes.

Montana was also much better at scrambling and improvising than Brady.

Amazing he could only manage 4 Super Bowl appearances with that stacked roster, a top 5 all time head coach, and the WR GOAT by his side.

[Infinite_limit]

Amazing he could only manage 4 Super Bowl appearances with that stacked roster, a top 5 all time head coach, and the WR GOAT by his side.

1981: 13-3 SB Champs
1982: *Strike season* 3-6
1983: 21 point comeback in 4th Quarter @ Washington, blown calls gives Skins Win "The Forgotten Classic"

On fourth and 10, Joe Theisman threw a desperation pass in the direction of Art Monk. The ball sailed well over everybody's head, and the 49ers were prepared to take the ball back for a game winning drive. Except that a penalty had been called. Eric Wright was flagged for pass interference on Monk, even though the pass had been completely, unquestionably uncatchable. It was a crushing blow, but even with the penalty, the 49ers had a chance to shut down the Redskins. Washington marched well within field goal range, but wanted to knock as much time off the clock as possible. On third and five from the 13 yard line, the Redskins caught another break. Theisman threw an incomplete pass, but Ronnie Lott was called for holding a receiver away from the play and the Redskins got another first-down and whittled the clock to under a minute before taking a chip-shot field goal to take the lead.

1984: 15-1 SB Champs
1985: 10-6 Lose @ NYG [Jerry Rice rookie]
1986: 10-5-1 Lose @ NYG [Joe knocked out with concussion]
1987: 13-2 Lose vs Vikings [Legit chokejob]
1988: 10-6 SB Champs
1989: 14-2 SB Champs
1990: 14-2 Lose vs NYG [Joe knocked out]


4 outta 10 seasons
- 1982 strike
- 1983 blown call
- 1990 injury

You could argue 4 outta 7 seasons. Pretty damn impressive.

[monosylab1k]

ROFL and Niners fans accuse Pats fans of being homerish?

Let me try this stupid game out

2001 11-3, SB CHAMPS
2002 9-7 [ of a lot better than 3-6 tho]
2003 14-2 SB CHAMPS
2004 14-2 SB CHAMPS
2005 10-6 [a slew of bull calls, Plummer literally had to drive like 50 yds for 21 pts, and Champ Bailey's INT/fumble should have been a touchback]
2006 12-4 Lost to Indy [called BS offensive PI on troy Brown on what could have give them a 28-3 lead. Also Reche ing Caldwell]
2007 16-0 [Helmet Catch]
2008 injured
2009 10-6 Lost to Balt [takes over a full season of play for a QB to fully recover from a torn ACL]
2010 14-2 Lost to Jets
2011 13-3 [Welker Drop]
2012 12-4 Lost to Balt
2013 12-4 Lost to Denver
2014 12-4 SB CHAMPS

6 out of 14 seasons
2005 blown calls
2006 blown calls, Reche Caldwell
2008 injury
2009 injury

You could argue 8 out of 12 seasons. More impressive than Montana.

[DeadlyDynasty]

1990 had very little to do with Montana's injury. That game was won till Roger Craig coughed it up

[Pelicans78]

1990 had very little to do with Montana's injury. That game was won till Roger Craig coughed it up

The Giants were a better team regardless. They would have dominated the Niners in New York or a neutral field. Niners barely squeaked by in the regular season against them in Candlestick. I don't think even with a healthy Montana, the Niners beat the Bills who were the best team in the league. That was by far the best Bills Super Bowl team who's defense never measured up after the 1990 season.

[JoeTait75]

Really a shame for the Bills that they didn't play the 49ers in any of those Super Bowls. They matched up far better against San Francisco than any of those rough-and-tumble NFC East teams.

[Avante]

Joe Montana had an uncannny knack for knowing exactly where his receivers would end up. He had the mental aspects of game totally down. The best I've ever seen.

[Clipper Nation]

Joe Montana had an uncannny knack for knowing exactly where his receivers would end up. He had the mental aspects of game totally down. The best I've ever seen.

It's called "throwing the receiver open," and it's part of what separates the real franchise quarterbacks from the Struggle Wilsons.

[Avante]

It's called "throwing the receiver open," and it's part of what separates the real franchise quarterbacks from the Struggle Wilsons.

First off "throwing the receiver open" is totally different than what I was talking about. As usual, wrong again.

A franchise QB's job is to win games, nobody has won more in just three seasons. One more time.....his comp % (you do know what that is, right?) is superior to anyones after three seasons.

Little man, with each post ya look dumber and dumber.

[Phillip]

Still waiting to see objective, legit proof that Montana is unquestionably superior to Brady.

I'm thinking it's not gonna be presented... because it doesn't exist.

russell wilson

[Infinite_limit]

ROFL and Niners fans accuse Pats fans of being homerish?

Let me try this stupid game out

2001 11-3, SB CHAMPS
2002 9-7 [ of a lot better than 3-6 tho]
2003 14-2 SB CHAMPS
2004 14-2 SB CHAMPS
2005 10-6 [a slew of bull calls, Plummer literally had to drive like 50 yds for 21 pts, and Champ Bailey's INT/fumble should have been a touchback]
2006 12-4 Lost to Indy [called BS offensive PI on troy Brown on what could have give them a 28-3 lead. Also Reche ing Caldwell]
2007 16-0 [Helmet Catch]
2008 injured
2009 10-6 Lost to Balt [takes over a full season of play for a QB to fully recover from a torn ACL]
2010 14-2 Lost to Jets
2011 13-3 [Welker Drop]
2012 12-4 Lost to Balt
2013 12-4 Lost to Denver
2014 12-4 SB CHAMPS

6 out of 14 seasons
2005 blown calls
2006 blown calls, Reche Caldwell
2008 injury
2009 injury

You could argue 8 out of 12 seasons. More impressive than Montana.

2002
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013


^ That's alot of failure

[Avante]

Still waiting to see objective, legit proof that Montana is unquestionably superior to Brady.

I'm thinking it's not gonna be presented... because it doesn't exist.

russell wilson

Who is faster a guy running a 10.06 on a dirt track in 1964 or a guy running a 9.86 on a synthetic track in 2015?

Russell Wilson has already won as many SB's as KC, it took him two seasons, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Infinite_limit]

1990 had very little to do with Montana's injury. That game was won till Roger Craig coughed it up

The argument is Montana behind center is able to get the needed 1st Down to run out the clock. He had hit John Taylor for a 60 yard TD the previous drive. While Giants needed 5 field goals and a fake punt