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    OK. 11 witnesses.

    Both, since he wrote about both, though the judge told the jury they were not determining if Ventura got punched -- it was about the story.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5631153.html

    .From what I can piece together, I think Ventura claims he wasn't even there at the time of the alleged incident.
    Ventura Also claimed Bush was behind 9-11, the CIA followed him to Cuba, NSA agents found and confronted him when he was governor, and that he's living in Mexico to escape drones being able to track him.

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    Ventura Also claimed Bush was behind 9-11, the CIA followed him to Cuba, NSA agents found and confronted him when he was governor, and that he's living in Mexico to escape drones being able to track him.
    You sound like the estate's defense lawyer tbh. That's pretty much what he tried.

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    You sound like the estate's defense lawyer tbh. That's pretty much what he tried.
    It's valid though.

    And both are proven liars, I just tend to side with the dead guy who faithfully served his country and couldn't testify in the case over the bat crazy American hater trying to keep his name in the news.

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    "dead guy who faithfully served his country"

    he served his homicidal psychosis and incidentally got Big UK/US Oilco's into Iraq. USA had all to do with Iraq.



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    Not at all. All that mattered were the facts of the case. Ventura proved his version to the satisfaction of the majority of the jury both sides agreed to.

    And both are proven liars, I just tend to side with the dead guy who faithfully served his country and couldn't testify in the case over the bat crazy American hater trying to keep his name in the news.
    Kyle's statement was entered into evidence. It's probably best he didn't testify. Would probably have yet another version of the story.

    And there is no evidence Ventura did not serve his country faithfully. I think the guy is a loon with the conspiracy talk, but I tend to believe he believes it. Could just be mental.

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    "dead guy who faithfully served his country"

    he served his homicidal psychosis and incidentally got Big UK/US Oilco's into Iraq. USA had all to do with Iraq.


    Iraq was a huge up but Chris Kyle still faithfully served his country and thousands of soldiers are alive walking the streets among you today because of him. I don't blame soldiers one bit for Iraq

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    Not at all. All that mattered were the facts of the case. Ventura proved his version to the satisfaction of the majority of the jury both sides agreed to.

    Kyle's statement was entered into evidence. It's probably best he didn't testify. Would probably have yet another version of the story.

    And there is no evidence Ventura did not serve his country faithfully. I think the guy is a loon with the conspiracy talk, but I tend to believe he believes it. Could just be mental.
    I just don't believe Ventura's version of the night as told much like I don't fully believe Kyle's version of the night.

    and Ventura served his country for sure, he just lied about when, where, and with which team.

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    I just don't believe Ventura's version of the night as told much like I don't fully believe Kyle's version of the night.
    Um, good for you?

    and Ventura served his country for sure, he just lied about when, where, and with which team.
    Yeah, that article was angry inside baseball. As far as I can tell he was UDT in Vietnam but didn't see combat there. I'm not much into any one person's autobiography for all the reasons we've been over.

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    thanks. Now go watch the movie so you can add something to this thread lol

    Yeah, that article was angry inside baseball. As far as I can tell he was UDT in Vietnam but didn't see combat there. I'm not much into any one person's autobiography for all the reasons we've been over.
    Who would you have rather had lunch with Kyle or Ventura?

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    thanks. Now go watch the movie so you can add something to this thread lol
    When it hits the discount house. No reason to blow more on regular type movies.

    Who would you have rather had lunch with Kyle or Ventura?
    Are you kidding?

    Ventura hands down. How entertaining would that be?

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    I imagine lunch with Ventura would be much like lunch with boutons.

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    I wouldn't expect to get two words in edgewise -- just bring up a topic and watch him go.

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    When it hits the discount house. No reason to blow more on regular type movies.

    Are you kidding?

    Ventura hands down. How entertaining would that be?
    I think annoying and embarassing would be more accurate descriptions.

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    I imagine lunch with Ventura would be much like lunch with boutons.
    but louder. Unless boutons is also like that.

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    Iraq was a huge up but Chris Kyle still faithfully served his country and thousands of soldiers are alive walking the streets among you today because of him. I don't blame soldiers one bit for Iraq
    If Kyle had a brain instead of a homicidal psychosis, he could have seen the Repugs were LYING about Iraq right from 9/12 for 2 years before invading Iraq for oil. But the might have gotten "friendly fired" like Tillman.

    VN vets were, are screwed because they were drafted, but after VN, Iraq, Afghanistan and all the Ms of dead and ed up vets FOR NOTHING, anybody who joins the military must know they are risking themselves FOR NOTHING.

    btw, I am LESS SECURE "on the streets" (ask Boston) now than in 2000 because the military destabilized the Middle East, thanks Repugs!, and lost Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Iraq, and RADICALIZED 100Ks of Muslims.
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    lol criticizing the president makes you a piece of ?? oooooooooooooooook

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    I think Eastwood tried not to muck up Kyle's story with the story of the war in Iraq.....at the end of the day kyle is a hero to the American troops who came home to their families because of Kyle...Every war, good or bad, has heros..

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    “AMERICAN SNIPER” CHRIS KYLE DISTORTED HIS MILITARY RECORD, DO ENTS SHOW

    “All told,” Kyle wrote in his book, “I would end my career as a SEAL with two Silver Stars and five Bronze [Stars], all for valor.”

    But Kyle, who was murdered by a fellow military veteran several years after leaving the Navy, embellished his military record, according to internal Navy do ents obtained by The Intercept. During his 10 years of military service and four deployments, Kyle earned one Silver Star and three Bronze Stars with Valor, a record confirmed by Navy officials.

    Kyle was warned at least once before American Sniper was published that its description of his medal count was wrong, according to one current Navy officer, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak about the case.

    As Kyle’s American Sniper manuscript was distributed among SEALs, one of his former commanders, who was still on active duty, advised Kyle that his claim of having two Silver Stars was false, and he should correct it before his book was published.


    https://theintercept.com/2016/05/25/...ushpmg00000003



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    “AMERICAN SNIPER” CHRIS KYLE DISTORTED HIS MILITARY RECORD, DO ENTS SHOW

    “All told,” Kyle wrote in his book, “I would end my career as a SEAL with two Silver Stars and five Bronze [Stars], all for valor.”

    But Kyle, who was murdered by a fellow military veteran several years after leaving the Navy, embellished his military record, according to internal Navy do ents obtained by The Intercept. During his 10 years of military service and four deployments, Kyle earned one Silver Star and three Bronze Stars with Valor, a record confirmed by Navy officials.

    Kyle was warned at least once before American Sniper was published that its description of his medal count was wrong, according to one current Navy officer, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak about the case.

    As Kyle’s American Sniper manuscript was distributed among SEALs, one of his former commanders, who was still on active duty, advised Kyle that his claim of having two Silver Stars was false, and he should correct it before his book was published.


    https://theintercept.com/2016/05/25/...ushpmg00000003


    He lied about a lot more than that.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/20/mohammad-gulab-marcus-luttrell-navy-seal-lone-survivor-operation-red-wings-458139.html

    guy was still a bad ass though

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    This Newsweek article is about Marcus Luttrells allegedly completely backstabbing and then abandoning the Afghan who saved him depicted by Lone Survisor.
    Are you talking about Kyle or Luttrell?

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    This Newsweek article is about Marcus Luttrells allegedly completely backstabbing and then abandoning the Afghan who saved him depicted by Lone Survisor.
    Are you talking about Kyle or Luttrell?
    My bad, was talking about Luttrell...sounds like his whole Lone Survivor story was embellished immensely

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    Navy shoots down ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle’s overstated claims of medals received

    Responding to reports that famed “American Sniper” Chris Kyle embellished his war record with claims of medals he never received, the US Navy has released his records showing he overstated his valor awards in his best-selling book.

    In an unusual move, the Navy released the late Navy Seal’s discharge paperwork showing a discrepancy between what he stated in the book — which went on to become a box office smash — and what he was actually awarded, reports USAToday,

    According to the Navy, no records were found for two of six Bronze Stars with combat ‘V’ and the second Silver Star, two of which he had said he received. The Navy did state that famed sniper had earned a single Silver Star and four Bronze Stars during his ten years of service.

    “After thoroughly reviewing all available records, the Navy determined an error was made in the issuance of Chief Petty Officer Chris Kyle’s form DD214,” Ensign Marc Rockwellpate, a Navy spokesman, said in a statement.

    “Specifically, the DD 214 did not accurately reflect the decorations and awards to which Kyle was officially en led. After notifying his family of the error, the Navy issued a corrected copy of the DD 214, which accurately reflects Kyle’s years of honorable and extraordinary Navy service.”


    Kyle never corrected the official record, which has cast a shadow over other claims made in his book.


    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/navy...e+Raw+Story%29




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    So what you're saying is he had 4 bronze stars and a silver star? Okay.

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    So what you're saying is he had 4 bronze stars and a silver star? Okay.
    The Navy said he lied, his buddies told him his book was a lie and to correct it. Kyle is a loser. And he's a great psychotherapist, taking a mentally ill vet to a shooting range as therapy.

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