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    Disagree that top 16 should make the playoffs regardless of conference - if you do that you also have to get rid of divisions and balance the schedule. It'd be weird watching an all-west NBA finals. Don't like the idea.

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    Disagree that top 16 should make the playoffs regardless of conference - if you do that you also have to get rid of divisions and balance the schedule. It'd be weird watching an all-west NBA finals. Don't like the idea.
    Why would you have to get rid of divisions? Getting rid of conferences doesn't imply that divisions are a bad thing.

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    Pass.

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    I would like to see the 3 point line moved at least 3 feet back
    as it seems anyone can make a three now.
    I agree tbh

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    Why would you have to get rid of divisions? Getting rid of conferences doesn't imply that divisions are a bad thing.
    Because it wouldn't be logical to keep everything as is, including the schedule, give all division leaders a playoff spot, but disregard the conferences. Would it be fair that the Spurs play Dallas, Houston and memphis 4 times each, but some eastern team plays Knicks and Philly 4 times? Not really - if you disregard conferences you have to also balance the schedule, otherwise you can't compare the records of teams that have completely different strength of schedule. If an eastern team has a record of 42-40 and is fighting for the 16th spot with a western team with a record of 41-41, but the eastern team has had a much easier schedule then it'd be just as unfair as it is now. Also, what'd happen if there's a division leader with a record worse than top 16? Would they be given a playoff spot?

    I think stuff is OK the way it. I'd love it if they reduce the schedule to 58 games and get rid of b2bs, because this would increase the quality and importance of each game, but they won't do it for financial reasons obviously.

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    Yeah, conferences just aren't needed anymore. Merge and send the top 16 teams to the playoffs.

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    Another way to increase compe ion is the Euro-style soccer A and B leagues.

    If you're crappy in A-league, you're "relegated" to B-league,

    and if you great in B-league, you can get "promoted" to A-league.

    16 teams in A-league, 16 teams in B-league

    but the NBA (the owners) don't GAF about the compe ive qualities of the games, only profits (and tax write offs).

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    Love the idea tbh

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    I think its dumb that you would eliminate the conference system that is in every major sport.
    every sport and league are different. who cares about other major sports

    I dont want to see a 1-16 seeded system, thats so stupid. Im strongly against this idea. East teams also have easier schedules and divisions set up to be easier than others so its just a really dumb idea. Its fixing a problem that doesnt exist.
    the problem obviously exists that's why the league Comish is talking about fixing it

    I dont give a flippity if OKC or NO dont get a playoff spot this year and Boston or Detroit does. Why does that matter, its not like NO or OKC are gonna win the le.
    you might not but most NBA fans do. so you are in the minority here. Most NBA fans want to see WB/Durant, A Davis in the playoffs. Not only does that help their individual and team developments but also increases revenue for the teams.

    Then Imagine a situation with a Houston vs SA/Dal final, That would be really dumb imo
    that would be fine with me and with most NBA fans. Much better than a snoozer of an East playoffs where CLE coasts to the Finals.

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    Another way to increase compe ion is the Euro-style soccer A and B leagues.

    If you're crappy in A-league, you're "relegated" to B-league,

    and if you great in B-league, you can get "promoted" to A-league.

    16 teams in A-league, 16 teams in B-league

    but the NBA (the owners) don't GAF about the compe ive qualities of the games, only profits (and tax write offs).
    I was thinking about this yesterday. Never happen because VRWC and Big Pharma.
    But I like personally like the idea.

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    There is not a playoff seeding problem. The problem lies in teams tanking for lottery positioning. Fix the lottery system with a draft wheel and you solve the real issue. Then every team has every incentive to "win now". The compe ion improves and the smart front offices will rise to the top of the league.

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    I just want to see the best teams play each other...everything is fine other then the East first rd.

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    Another way to increase compe ion is the Euro-style soccer A and B leagues.

    If you're crappy in A-league, you're "relegated" to B-league,

    and if you great in B-league, you can get "promoted" to A-league.

    16 teams in A-league, 16 teams in B-league

    but the NBA (the owners) don't GAF about the compe ive qualities of the games, only profits (and tax write offs).
    ... and add in some bonus/malus to players' compensation for promotion/relegation.

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    Getting rid of conferences but keeping divisions and giving division winners the first six spots only solves half the problem. Divisions are just as imbalanced as conferences, if not worse. Toronto would have a huge advantage over San Antonio due to the horrible division they play in.

    The league should do away with divisions. Have every team play every other team twice, home and away. The season is too long anyway. This format would cut the season to 58 games? It would make every game much more important, lessen the burden on players, and create a better overall product. At the end of the season, the top 16 teams make the playoffs and are ranked purely on record.

    To make up for lost revenue, the league could stage a single elimination tournament at the beginning or middle of the season. Image March Madness but with NBA teams. They could also set up tournaments with clubs from around the world. As the game becomes more global, more opportunities arise.

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    Needs to happen

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    There is not a playoff seeding problem. The problem lies in teams tanking for lottery positioning. Fix the lottery system with a draft wheel and you solve the real issue. Then every team has every incentive to "win now". The compe ion improves and the smart front offices will rise to the top of the league.
    The wheel is an awful idea that just brings more problems. Do kids NOT declare if a team the don't like is up for the top of the wheel? Imagine that you're the team picking before the Lakers EVERY rotation of the wheel. With the wheel, we would never have gotten David and Tim 10 years apart.

    Fix the lottery. Put it back the way it's supposed to be, where anyone can win. A couple of late lottery team wins made fools RUSH to make it even MORE weighted to the top teams, causing our current tanking fad. Go back to the simple formula of 14 balls for the worst team down to 1 ball for the last lottery team. That would be 14X odds for the worst team, MUCH lower than the current hundreds of times odds. You could also penalize teams for winning the lottery by automatically making them anywhere from #4 to #14 if they don't make the playoffs the next year.

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    He needs to change the way harden is officiated makes the game near impossible to watch.

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    Getting rid of conferences but keeping divisions and giving division winners the first six spots only solves half the problem. Divisions are just as imbalanced as conferences, if not worse. Toronto would have a huge advantage over San Antonio due to the horrible division they play in.

    The league should do away with divisions. Have every team play every other team twice, home and away. The season is too long anyway. This format would cut the season to 58 games? It would make every game much more important, lessen the burden on players, and create a better overall product. At the end of the season, the top 16 teams make the playoffs and are ranked purely on record.

    To make up for lost revenue, the league could stage a single elimination tournament at the beginning or middle of the season. Image March Madness but with NBA teams. They could also set up tournaments with clubs from around the world. As the game becomes more global, more opportunities arise.


    No, each team twice and each team in your current conference three times. 58 games is way too short.

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    This is very dumb, keep the conference setup the way it is. The pendulum always swings back the other way, the East will rise and West will fall, such is life, if you cant get a top 8 seed in your conference you arent winning anyways lol
    With only a few exceptions the East has pretty much been since Jordan retired..

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    He needs to change the way harden is officiated makes the game near impossible to watch.
    Yup...unwatchable. Even the thunder fall into this category sometimes with Durant getting free throws on 18' fadaways.

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    Yup...unwatchable. Even the thunder fall into this category sometimes with Durant getting free throws on 18' fadaways.
    Westbrook is even worse. Everytime the dude drives....everytime.

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    Westbrook is even worse. Everytime the dude drives....everytime.
    yeah. As if he is unable to miss a layup or get blocked based on being contested. No, "he's so*athletic" he had to have been fouled.

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    Maybe it's because I'm a foreigner but I've never really understood why there's so much emphasis on East vs West, when most of the fans despise all the other teams in their conference. Do you really think East coast fans are more interested by a Lakers vs Miami finals than by Lakers vs Dallas? And I was nice by picking Miami, I could have picked Boston which doesn't seem to be getting much love in the East outside of their home state.

    Here are some of the ideas I like:
    - remove divisions, they are useless
    - remove conferences, also useless
    - 2x games against everybody (58 games is more than enough, and everybody's complaining about the 82-game schedule)
    - rank strictly by record
    - top seeds get to choose who they play (pick their match-up, reduce travel time, etc.), which means the top teams keep HCA as well
    - lottery all the way (including playoff teams), worst team gets 30 balls, top team gets 1 (1 chance out of 465 to get top pick)

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    No way.

    The current system will allow the Spurs to have HCA in the Finals (against Cleveland).

    That would never happen if the seeding system changes.

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    No way.

    The current system will allow the Spurs to have HCA in the Finals (against Cleveland).

    That would never happen if the seeding system changes.
    No but it would also give the Spurs a much better chance to make the finals, it would also give Cleveland a much more difficult chance to make the finals. Right now the Spurs are looking at three compe ive series to get to the finals. The Cavs on the other hand basically just have to get by Atlanta. Now if playoff seeding was proper, the Cavaliers would like have to play a Western team in round 2, 3 and finals.

    Its a change that just needs to happen. It will make the NBA playoffs even better. Especially the second round, because by the second round any team could virtually lose.

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