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    Miami has some of the worst defensive PG's in the league, all guys were ranked 45 and up out of all 80 PG's before today's game.

    Napier is 170lbs, one of the smallest and weakest PG's in the NBA. Parker was able to back him down over and over again because of this, allowing him to create for others as well as score with ease.

    Against a much bigger PG, or SG these opportunities will not be there, it is basically fools gold.

    Parker has always relied on speed and the Spurs' system to get him plays, not his size. He needs to create separation through his speed, not through bodily contact because he's not going to be playing against such light guys in the playoffs.

    I'm starting to notice just how long it's taking to get Parker to score, and that's why the Spurs struggle so much. He's dribbling late into the shot clock and the Spurs are trying to get him going at the expense of everyone else, by the time he passes it it's around 10 secs in and they rush up a low % shot.

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    pulling out all the logins available to damage control

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    Whoever did that forgot to mention the excessive use of tbh, tbh.

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    Miami has some of the worst defensive PG's in the league, all guys were ranked 45 and up out of all 80 PG's before today's game.

    Napier is 170lbs, one of the smallest and weakest PG's in the NBA. Parker was able to back him down over and over again because of this, allowing him to create for others as well as score with ease.

    Against a much bigger PG, or SG these opportunities will not be there, it is basically fools gold.

    Parker has always relied on speed and the Spurs' system to get him plays, not his size. He needs to create separation through his speed, not through bodily contact because he's not going to be playing against such light guys in the playoffs.

    I'm starting to notice just how long it's taking to get Parker to score, and that's why the Spurs struggle so much. He's dribbling late into the shot clock and the Spurs are trying to get him going at the expense of everyone else, by the time he passes it it's around 10 secs in and they rush up a low % shot.


    The short bus will ignore these facts, though.

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    Whoever did that forgot to mention the excessive use of tbh, tbh.
    I don't think tbh was prevalent here at the time it was posted.

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    KL2 certainly sounds like harlem.

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    so are manu s

    "When manu s die, even will not take them for fear they'll things up."
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=manu s

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    KL2 certainly sounds like harlem.
    Sometimes I do lol. But it's because we're seeing the same thing, the truth is the truth and it can be observed if you apply logic to it.

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    Enrique says...


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    MVParker is baaaccckkkk.... 21 points on 12 shots, amazing defense..... NBA is ed

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    MVParker is baaaccckkkk.... 21 points on 12 shots, amazing defense..... NBA is ed

    Yes, he shut down Shabazz Napier. He got only 4 pts instead of his average 5 pts.

    That being said, TP did have an efficient night at the offensive end, but the bar was set pretty low. TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.

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    TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.
    Duh!

    This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

    Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

    Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

    The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

    What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

    In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.

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    Duh!

    This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

    Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

    Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

    The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

    What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

    In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.
    You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part.

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    Yes, he shut down Shabazz Napier. He got only 4 pts instead of his average 5 pts.

    That being said, TP did have an efficient night at the offensive end, but the bar was set pretty low. TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.

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    You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part.
    EVAY is a mainstream fan with the most vanilla cliche takes...I wouldn't take him seriously if were you.

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    You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part.
    You are free to have and express your opinion, however mis-guided or intellectually barren it may be.

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    Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.
    The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

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    tbh I'll take credit for starting that one. I remember posting that vid when he was still only known as heroball

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    I swear that dude is a moron.

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    Jeebus posted the Video but TDMVPDPOY started the namecalling..

    I made a huge thread about Enrique and that probably cemented the enrique name.

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    lol hipstering the stupid nickname

    That's some pathetic right there.

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    Duh!

    This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.
    Yes, and it has failed time and time again with Parker at the helm. The Spurs have always been an average team at best even when it's working at 100% lmao. It got us plenty of regular season wins, and a load of playoff failures. It took Manu/Diaw running point to unlock this offense's true potential last year.

    Parker takes too long to create, and his court vision is far too limited for this team period. This used to work great when we didn't have such a talented offensive roster.

    Freeing up Parker can take upwards of 5 secs. running him off numerous screens, once TP gets the ball, another 5 secs trying to break down the defense. If he fails to break down the defense, chances are he'll bring it back out and try again (Thus you get the dribble dribble dribble). Meanwhile he's completely taken his teammates out of the game offensively, they are not playing as a team, this is not what won them championships. This even affects them even defensively because teams play best on both sides of the ball as an actual team. They're just there, standing around forced to watch Parker.

    In the playoffs this pretty much means death against most teams with a shot blocker and above average defense (OKC). By packing the paint it closes off many lanes for Parker, reducing the amount of defensive attention he gets, many times he's challenging them 1v1 at the rim, but can't get his shot off. Because they're able to easily challenge Parker they can close out on the 3pt shooters running them off the line, neutralizing the Spurs' 3pt game. Parker has a history of choking around shot blockers.

    Suddenly that formula you were using in the regular season is no longer working in the playoffs. The regular season does not=Playoffs at all.

    Now, this works with Manu/Diaw because they've got size and much better court vision. Parker has always relied on the system to get him most of his assists, corner 3's and Duncan pick and rolls/post, probably make up 90% of his career assists. Parker can only create what is already there, Diaw/Manu can create plays with their passing that are NOT there. Start paying attention to just how basic Parker's passes are, anybody can replicate them, he relies on the system to create for him.



    Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

    Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

    The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

    What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

    In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.

    90% of Parker's scoring came against Napier.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MI...fo.html?ls=slt


    Napier is just 170lbs, and because of this Parker was able to create bodily separation. He was backing him down getting great position in the paint, allowing him to create for others with the defensive attention he drew. On his drives to the rim Napier would easily get picked off by screens (just way too light), or he'd get bumped off by Parker because he was too small.

    Creating separation in the NBA is what separates the scrubs from the elite offensive players, which many people don't know. Separation can be achieved a handful of ways.

    Parker relies on speed and play calling to create separation for himself, other guys use dribbling/ball handling/fakes, others bodily contact. Parker does not rely on bodily contact, which he used to excel in this game. His jumpers are usually off some sort of screen (separation created by play calling), his drives to the rim (play calling and speed).

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    Yes, and it has failed time and time again with Parker at the helm. The Spurs have always been an average team at best even when it's working at 100% lmao. It got us plenty of regular season wins, and a load of playoff failures. It took Manu/Diaw running point to unlock this offense's true potential last year.

    Parker takes too long to create, and his court vision is far too limited for this team period. This used to work great when we didn't have such a talented offensive roster.

    Freeing up Parker can take upwards of 5 secs. running him off numerous screens, once TP gets the ball, another 5 secs trying to break down the defense. If he fails to break down the defense, chances are he'll bring it back out and try again (Thus you get the dribble dribble dribble). Meanwhile he's completely taken his teammates out of the game offensively, they are not playing as a team, this is not what won them championships. This even affects them even defensively because teams play best on both sides of the ball as an actual team. They're just there, standing around forced to watch Parker.

    In the playoffs this pretty much means death against most teams with a shot blocker and above average defense (OKC). By packing the paint it closes off many lanes for Parker, reducing the amount of defensive attention he gets, many times he's challenging them 1v1 at the rim, but can't get his shot off. Because they're able to easily challenge Parker they can close out on the 3pt shooters running them off the line, neutralizing the Spurs' 3pt game. Parker has a history of choking around shot blockers.

    Suddenly that formula you were using in the regular season is no longer working in the playoffs. The regular season does not=Playoffs at all.

    Now, this works with Manu/Diaw because they've got size and much better court vision. Parker has always relied on the system to get him most of his assists, corner 3's and Duncan pick and rolls/post, probably make up 90% of his career assists. Parker can only create what is already there, Diaw/Manu can create plays with their passing that are NOT there. Start paying attention to just how basic Parker's passes are, anybody can replicate them, he relies on the system to create for him.






    90% of Parker's scoring came against Napier.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MI...fo.html?ls=slt


    Napier is just 170lbs, and because of this Parker was able to create bodily separation. He was backing him down getting great position in the paint, allowing him to create for others with the defensive attention he drew. On his drives to the rim Napier would easily get picked off by screens (just way too light), or he'd get bumped off by Parker because he was too small.

    Creating separation in the NBA is what separates the scrubs from the elite offensive players, which many people don't know. Separation can be achieved a handful of ways.

    Parker relies on speed and play calling to create separation for himself, other guys use dribbling/ball handling/fakes, others bodily contact. Parker does not rely on bodily contact, which he used to excel in this game. His jumpers are usually off some sort of screen (separation created by play calling), his drives to the rim (play calling and speed).
    Pretty much, I hate every Porker possession it takes too many seconds and every time I look to the opposite teams they have plety of time to make plays.
    He hurts the team the numbers dont lie is that so hard to see?

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    Were there any assists from Parker to Kawhi?

    http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MI...fo.html?ls=slt

    Look at play-by-play
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    Duh!

    This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

    Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

    I disagree that that's how Kawhi got his 3-pointers. TP did get one of his by Kawhi drawing the defense and kicking to Tony, however.

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