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Who the is daniel murray?
Man...I give Darryl a lot of but this is pure gold...the amount of buthurt in that fatass was palpable
Who the is daniel murray?
I don't know, if he ever walks through the door I'll let you know.
how would the pro-analytic crowd respond to Charles here, tbh?
midnightpulp,
Malik Hairston, ambchang, KillKobe81
"Analytics is something a bunch of smart guys invented cuz they can't get no gurlz and nobody asked them to the prom"
Did this dumbass really take the bait...? I thought Chuck was set on a GM job around the league, how the does he expect to get ever get hired like this?
Lol analytics
Billy King
I thought Chuck was set on a GM job around the league, how the does he expect to get ever get hired like this?
Rockets are doing some solid things man, I dont think they end up with a ring because Bin Harden and mental midget Howard are not about that life. But I give them credit
Chuck took the bait on Morey's tweet and he bit hard. To be fair, Chuck sure took some uggos to the prom.
Barkley obviously doesn't get what statistics are for.
Damn son, that last pic in your sig
Barkley's basketball takes are hit-or-miss, but one thing you can't deny is that you'll always be entertained hearing him talk.
I question the wisdom of a GM going after Barkley. Their job purposes are completely different. Of course statistics are mightly important and we have seen their effect in the NBA. Offenses around the league are drastically different now than back in the Jordan days or early 2000s. And of course Barkley might have no idea how to put that info to good use.
But I am sure as TNT doesn't pay him to be able to do that. He's a cool dude, who was a great player and can talk about basketball by also providing a personal touch. That's good enough for TV. I am fairly sure most people wouldn't be able to understand 5-man-lineup statistics and the adjusted plus minuses or other stuff that teams use nowadays.
p.s Barkley is dead wrong on one thing though, which has led him and the other members of the NBA cast to make some awful predictions on the pre-season round table shows that TNT/NBA Tv has done in recent years. This isn't a league just about talent anymore. On talent alone the 2011, 2013 and 2014 NBA Finals are simply a walk for the Heat. In fact they lost two against teams with a grand total of one All-Star, and were extremely lucky to win the other one. As I said, the offensive strategies around the league have changed drastically and ball movement, spacing and shooting are at a premium right now. You'd think at some point these guys should realize that this isn't quite the same league as the one they used to play in. Oh well...
Im not a analytics guy. I do see the value in it I think it's dumb not to use all resources available. But I trust my eyes even more. Example I can see Harden is giving more effort and playing a more solid fundamental game on that end. But for him to be a early leader in defensive rating tells me that stat is full of . Rox added Ariza and went to Beverly for heavy minutes and when Dwight was healthy he had 3 elite defenders starting with him ...of course his defensive numbers will look better.
I give Morey credit Rox have maintained a top 4 seed with al bunch of injuries and a shaky coach. Right now the 3 biggest advanced nerds are all doing well in the West. Rox, Memphis (hollinger) and cubes. But outside of the Rox I dont see alot of moves that those teams made that others would not make whether they relied on Analytics or not. Losing Parsons but gaining Ariza was a upgrade stats or no stats. Cubes signing Parsons same thing. Grizz have most of the core they had before Chimpy took office. And the stats didnt stop Cubes from blowing up his le team or jacking up his spacing and getting Rondo.
analytics
the word says it all. it's for gots
Morey as a GM should be focused on getting this team past the first round. On this particular subject, this goes beyond what Charles has to say on tv. Charles is letting his personal history with the Rockets influence his commentary to the point where he's making no sense whatsoever and sounding really unprofessional and the schtick has gotten old. If Les Alexander truly owes him money, then he needs to take it up with him off air. The players have nothing to do with that, neither does the current front office. Barkley got really asshurt by a tweet that he shouldn't have.
"They never got the girls in HS" ...
Why Charles so mad tho?
I guess he really wants a GM job and is pissed he hasn't gotten one yet.
Barkley can dish but can't take.
I know but that was funny. Such a "bully" comment. I can picture Chuck giving Morey a wedgie and stealing his girl.
Who takes Charles seriously?
I was thinking the same thing. His argument against the spurs has always been they don't have enough talent...now he wants to say they win because they have a lot of talent ?
Last edited by sook; 02-11-2015 at 12:40 PM.
Morey's use of analytics is stupid (ex: Eliminating midrange almost completely), but to say that using analytics is dumb is the dumbest of all. If he thinks the spurs don't use them he's either in serious denial or plain stupid. I do agree with you though, the eye test is usually FAR more telling.
The kind of stats I do hate are the ones cherry picked across the board like, "the only player to ever score 3 consecutive points in less than 2 minutes while grabbing 2 boards , 1 steal and committing 2 turnovers, all while holding his imminent diarrhea in during that entire span of time." That and the PER used as a universal metric for individual greatness is the dumbest ever.
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