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    no

    Kawhi still isn't even the leader or best player on his own team.

    Dirk in his old age still has proven he can put a mediocre team on his back and get to around the 45-50 win mark

    Kawhi has never proven crap, other than the fact that he clearly is incapable of being the centerpiece of a serious team at this point of his career.
    I respectfully disagree tbh just check stats of the Spurs with and without Leonard. The fact he is not the leader of the team who belongs to Duncan has nothing to do with performance and impact on the team. Nobody is talking here about intangibles.

    Leonard is clearly today the best player of the team... He missed a bunch of games but Spurs are playing at another level with him especially on the D end. Always thought Dirk received a lot of undeserved crap about his defense but nowadays he is mostly a non factor on this side

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    For the rest Venti is cute tbh... Klay is the superior player in RS... And ? Who ing cares ?

    if you want a ring you take Kawhi 100 times over 100

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    I'd take Matrix 2.0 over Klay too tbh

    and I am not in the short bus crew that thinks Kawhi is our MVP or best player neither

    Klay is an overrated scrub as will be shown in the playoffs.

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    Kawhi still isn't even the leader or best player on his own team.

    Dirk in his old age still has proven he can put a mediocre team on his back and get to around the 45-50 win mark
    truth bombs tbh

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    I respectfully disagree tbh just check stats of the Spurs with and without Leonard. The fact he is not the leader of the team who belongs to Duncan has nothing to do with performance and impact on the team. Nobody is talking here about intangibles.

    Leonard is clearly today the best player of the team... He missed a bunch of games but Spurs are playing at another level with him especially on the D end. Always thought Dirk received a lot of undeserved crap about his defense but nowadays he is mostly a non factor on this side
    and despite dirk being pretty poor on defense, his offense is still somehow good enough to win around 50 games a year as the unquestioned leader with mediocre talent around him, while Kawhi still has not proven he is the unquestioned leader of his team.

    Replace Dirk with Kawhi, and you seriously think the Mavs win 49 last year?

    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. For his role as a glue guy, Kawhi is really good. REALLY good. He is among the best glue guys in the league. But as a foundation? I still do not see any proof that he can be the indisputable #1 guy on a team, and that team be any kind of serious contender.

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    and despite dirk being pretty poor on defense, his offense is still somehow good enough to win around 50 games a year as the unquestioned leader with mediocre talent around him, while Kawhi still has not proven he is the unquestioned leader of his team.

    Replace Dirk with Kawhi, and you seriously think the Mavs win 49 last year?

    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. For his role as a glue guy, Kawhi is really good. REALLY good. He is among the best glue guys in the league. But as a foundation? I still do not see any proof that he can be the indisputable #1 guy on a team, and that team be any kind of serious contender.
    Kawhi at 23 is more accomplished than dirk at 40.

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    So many stupid takes in this thread
    Hmmm.... do I want the proven playoff choker, or the reigning Finals MVP? Tough choice, tbh.

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    Hmmm.... do I want the proven playoff choker, or the reigning Finals MVP? Tough choice, tbh.
    I'd take the guy who is just on fire and wow-ing everyone so far THIS season than the guy who lucked into an Finals MVP last season

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    I'd take the guy who is just on fire and wow-ing everyone so far THIS season than the guy who lucked into an Finals MVP last season
    Lottery team.

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    For the rest Venti is cute tbh... Klay is the superior player in RS... And ? Who ing cares ?
    And who ing cares as well? The all star game selection is adjudged from the start of the 2014-15 to the time coaches vote the time the All-Star game tips off. Pretry sure Klay has shown more than Kawhi this season bc of overall better performance and health. Again why are you guys so salty... This is just who are you picking right now to play for the West AS and not who are you anchoring a championship run on. I think we pretty much agree that Kawhi is that anchor guy until Klay proves otherwise

    This is just who deserves more to play in the ASG and not who is a better championship anchor. You Frenchies are probably extra salty just because a German got in.

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    Lucked?

    Are you re ed?

    kawhi has been a beast in the last three years in the playoffs..

    Jesus Laker fan.

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    I'd take the guy who is just on fire and wow-ing everyone so far THIS season than the guy who lucked into an Finals MVP last season
    I'll still take the proven playoff performer on my team over the choke artist with cute regular-season numbers.

    Also, "lucking into a Finals MVP" would be more like getting dragged to a ring by the real alphas on the team and then being awarded FMVP for it solely because of your name, tbh.

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    Lucked?

    Are you re ed?

    kawhi has been a beast in the last three years in the playoffs..

    Jesus Laker fan.
    I watched the Finals and he deserved it. His play was stellar for an early 20's guy to conquer the biggest stage of basketball. Just putting that out so, you know, just to agitate some more people

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    I'll still take the proven playoff performer on my team over the choke artist with cute regular-season numbers.

    Also, "lucking into a Finals MVP" would be more like getting dragged to a ring by the real alphas on the team and then being awarded FMVP for it solely because of your name, tbh.
    A lot of these players that have been given All-Star Game invites are from cute little teams.

    Klay
    Steph
    Millsap
    Horford
    Teague
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    Chris Paul
    BOOOOOGIEEEEEE
    Wall
    Lowry

    NONE of them are proven playoff performers. But why are they there? Because their play for the 2014-15 regular season has been stellar enough to merit an All-Star invite. Kobe wouldn't be selected if not for the fans.

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    I don't give two s about the All-Star Game, tbh. I'm just saying, if I'm building a team, I'm taking Kawhi over Klay any day of the week.

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    I don't give two s about the All-Star Game, tbh. I'm just saying, if I'm building a team, I'm taking Kawhi over Klay any day of the week.
    Never said anything about building a team. I was talking purely from an All-Star nod standpoint. But if it comes to that I'd still give Kawhi a slight advantage even though I love Klay and Steph.

    The Finals experience of totally obliterating a le favorite is immeasurable.

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    Lol

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    Not even. Kawhi is our most important player but he missed too many games this season.

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    tbh the only thing that we still don't know about Kawhi is how is he gonna respond when being the go-to guy AND being the focus of the opponents...

    Up until now he has blossomed with most of the attention being on the big3...

    But if we have to compare to Klay, Kawhi offers waaaay more guaranty in that regard.

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    A lot of these players that have been given All-Star Game invites are from cute little teams.

    Klay
    Steph
    Millsap
    Horford
    Teague
    Korver
    Chris Paul
    BOOOOOGIEEEEEE
    Wall
    Lowry

    NONE of them are proven playoff performers. But why are they there? Because their play for the 2014-15 regular season has been stellar enough to merit an All-Star invite. Kobe wouldn't be selected if not for the fans.
    Truth bombs

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    Never said anything about building a team. I was talking purely from an All-Star nod standpoint. But if it comes to that I'd still give Kawhi a slight advantage even though I love Klay and Steph.

    The Finals experience of totally obliterating a le favorite is immeasurable.
    Cosign

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    First off the average fan is Damn near brain dead when it comes to voting, 2nd just watch a Spurs game on nba tv or tnt outside of Spur fans they know very little about our team. I'd rather he take a break and get ready for the 2nd half.

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    Can't wait to see Kawhi next Thursday here in LA.

    He'll be stewing all week and score 20+ against the Clips with a vengeance.

    Book it folks.

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    And who ing cares as well? The all star game selection is adjudged from the start of the 2014-15 to the time coaches vote the time the All-Star game tips off. Pretry sure Klay has shown more than Kawhi this season bc of overall better performance and health. Again why are you guys so salty... This is just who are you picking right now to play for the West AS and not who are you anchoring a championship run on. I think we pretty much agree that Kawhi is that anchor guy until Klay proves otherwise

    This is just who deserves more to play in the ASG and not who is a better championship anchor. You Frenchies are probably extra salty just because a German got in.
    dude you are losing it tbh... I'm salty over what ? that Kawhi is not in the ASG ? big ing deal

    You bring Germany in that discussion for what purpose ?

    Klay clearly deserves more than Kawhi to go to the ASG... I already wrote he is the superior player in this RS and I'm gonna repeat myself... who cares ? you ?

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    Can't wait to see Kawhi next Thursday here in LA.

    He'll be stewing all week and score 20+ against the Clips with a vengeance.

    Book it folks.
    Just auditioning for his future team, tbh.

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