NBA: TOP 10 since MJ

[spurraider21]

I'm surprised this guy is not on anyone's list.

why

[apalisoc_9]

Name me 5 players post Jordan that has won 2 straight FMVP?

yep..you can't.

[hater]

Name me 5 posters that think Kiwi has won 2 straight FMVPs?

yep... you can't.

[StrengthAndHonor]

why

I just think he's at least as good if not better (peak) than Manu. But you can't argue his overall impact post Jordan.

[hater]

I just think he's at least as good if not better (peak) than Manu. But you can't argue his overall impact post Jordan.

there were about 30 players better than peak Manu in that stretch. it's not saying much tbqh

[DAF86]

Are we talking about pretty numbers that amounted to .500 basketball?

Nash value for Phoenix> Davis for his team now. You can't argue that. Iverson pretty much carried the woeful 76ers in the Finals. I like Davis but he's pretty much overrated at this point. He hasn't even scratched the surface yet to be even considered in this list.

No, we're arguing about a player just playing basketball and being better than others. Team record depends not only on how their star player performs, tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

Leonard will win his 2nd FMVP this year...Bookmarke this prediction.

[StrengthAndHonor]

No, we're arguing about a player just playing basketball and being better than others. Team record depends not only in how their star player performs, tbh.

We can just agree to disagree. I still don't think Davis qualifies in this list yet IMO. His career highlights pales in comparison at this point.

[hater]

Leonard will win his 2nd FMVP this year...Bookmarke this prediction.

I hope so

but until that happens Kawhi only belongs in the thread called "TOP 100 since MJ"

[hater]

We can just agree to disagree. I still don't think Davis qualifies in this list yet IMO. His career highlights pales in comparison at this point.

guy hasn't even played 1 playoff minute. of course he doesn't belong

[Phillip]

Team record depends not only on how their star player performs, tbh.

you state this yet are stupid and hypocritical enough to claim Manu > Dirk because of Manu's team records

[apalisoc_9]

Manu is an all time great player and one of the best in the last 15 years...

[spurraider21]

I just think he's at least as good if not better (peak) than Manu. But you can't argue his overall impact post Jordan.

manu shouldn't be in the top 10 either fwiw. one of my 2 favorite players of all time, but i cant be having a career sidekick in my top 10

TMac > Carter

[hater]

manu shouldn't be in the top 10 either fwiw. one of my 2 favorite players of all time, but i cant be having a career sidekick in my top 10

all the 2nd tier guys: Pierce, Allen, Wade, TMac, Carter, Kidd etc come before Manu.

Manu doesn't show up until the late 30s IMO (and after Parker of course)

[spurraider21]

all the 2nd tier guys: Pierce, Allen, Wade, TMac, Carter, Kidd etc come before Manu.

Manu doesn't show up until the late 30s IMO (and after Parker of course)

Manu >> Ray Allen

in Allen's best season as a #1 guy, Manu took his cookie in their playoff series

[hater]

Manu >> Ray Allen

no way. Supplant Manu with Allen in the 2003-2010 Spurs teams and we win more

in Allen's best season as a #1 guy, Manu + Parker + Duncan + Bowen + Pop took his cookie in their playoff series

FIFY

[DAF86]

you state this yet are stupid and hypocritical enough to claim Manu > Dirk because of Manu's team records

How many more times do I need to explain this to your low IQ Asian brain? To me having a better career doesn't necessarily means being a better player.

[DAF86]

all the 2nd tier guys: Pierce, Allen, Wade, TMac, Carter, Kidd etc come before Manu.

Manu doesn't show up until the late 30s IMO (and after Parker of course)

[hater]

dead serious.

I'd put these guys above Manu tbqh:
Pippen
Pierce
Allen
Wade
Bosh
Gasol
Carter
TMac
Kidd
Arenas
Mourning
Wallace
Paul
Harden
Parker
Stoudemire
Ming
Carmela
Robinson
Malone
Stockton
Miller


that's just off the top of my head tbqh

[spurraider21]

no way. Supplant Manu with Allen in the 2003-2010 Spurs teams and we win more



FIFY

in the 2005 playoff series:

Ray: 21.5 points (43.5% FG) and 2.8 assists per game, 3.5 turnovers per game
Manu: 20.5 points (57.6% FG) and 4.2 assists per game, 3.3 turnovers per game

[hater]

in the 2005 playoff series:

Ray: 21.5 points (43.5% FG) and 2.8 assists per game, 3.5 turnovers per game
Manu: 20.5 points (57.6% FG) and 4.2 assists per game, 3.3 turnovers per game

[spurraider21]

Manu took his cookiePERIOD

[Jenks]

Duncan
Shaq
Lebron
Dirk
Kidd
AI
Kobe
Durant
Pierce
Nash

[Arcadian]

1) Duncan
2) Shaq
3) James
4) Bryant
5) Garnett
6) Nowitzki
7) Wade
8) Nash
9) Iverson
10) Kidd

[Phillip]

How many more times do I need to explain this to your low IQ Asian brain? To me having a better career doesn't necessarily means being a better player.

Yet you are stupid enough to think that more "achievements" = "better career"