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    It's like brewsters millions. They had to spend the money anyway. Either pay some guys bonuses or buy a first round pick (albeit overpriced)

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    The sixers didn't pay anywhere near 16M for that pick. That may have actually bettered their bottom line by many millions of dollars. It all has to do with the salary cap floor, how it is calculated, and the penalties associated with it.

    I'll just use round numbers. The salary cap floor is around 56M. The penalty for ending the season below the floor is equal to the amount the team finishes below the floor. That amount must be paid out to the other players on the roster. Before the McGee trade, the sixers were about 13M below the floor. Without the trade, they would have had to pay that 13M out among the remaining players on the roster at the end of the season. Well, now they add McGee's 11.25M to their team salary, which all counts in calculating how much salary they have committed against the floor. So that 13M they owed the rest of the team is now less than 2M. That's about 11M. Subtract the 4M they owe McGee for the rest of the season, and sixer ownership has bettered their bottom line by about 7M.

    So, what about the 12M that McGee is owed for next season? The floor next season will be somewhere between 58-60M. The sixers have less than 20M committed without McGee. Even with McGee, they'll be somewhere around 25M below the floor. Unless you believe that Philly was about to go on some massive free agent spending spree this summer, McGee's contract won't add anything to their projected team payroll next season.
    Indeed, I understand the cap manipulations. Though I am not sure exactly how the floor works. I've heard that it's based in actual cash spend and not simply in cap numbers. However, there's no question that this saved Philly at least some money.

    The problem is that stuff like this doesn't sit well with players. Philly is hoping that their keepers are going to want to stay for the long haul, and there's only so much chumming up Brown can do if the FO constantly disregards the human aspect of things. The first simply wasn't worth the cost to the players. Eventually, Philly has to be a team players want to be part of, and they had a chance to show that and gave it up for a small asset.

    I'm curious to see how KJ McDaniels plays his RFA-Arenas status this off-season. He supposedly wants to stay, so that's not the main issue. I'm just wondering if he's planning on signing a long-term deal there or just take his QO and do it all again in 2016.

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    Indeed, I understand the cap manipulations. Though I am not sure exactly how the floor works. I've heard that it's based in actual cash spend and not simply in cap numbers. However, there's no question that this saved Philly at least some money.

    The problem is that stuff like this doesn't sit well with players. Philly is hoping that their keepers are going to want to stay for the long haul, and there's only so much chumming up Brown can do if the FO constantly disregards the human aspect of things. The first simply wasn't worth the cost to the players. Eventually, Philly has to be a team players want to be part of, and they had a chance to show that and gave it up for a small asset.

    I'm curious to see how KJ McDaniels plays his RFA-Arenas status this off-season. He supposedly wants to stay, so that's not the main issue. I'm just wondering if he's planning on signing a long-term deal there or just take his QO and do it all again in 2016.
    Treating players like assets, as Morey and Hinkie do, has potential problems to be sure. Philly is still in the asset collection phase of their long term plan and probably views any ill will from the players as an acceptable cost. We'll have to wait a few years to see what they look like once they start to cash in all those assets.

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    Did Gary Neal pop up in anyone elses head?

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    Golden State took 's contract for the #29 pick.
    awwwwww

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    Indeed, I understand the cap manipulations. Though I am not sure exactly how the floor works. I've heard that it's based in actual cash spend and not simply in cap numbers. However, there's no question that this saved Philly at least some money.

    The problem is that stuff like this doesn't sit well with players. Philly is hoping that their keepers are going to want to stay for the long haul, and there's only so much chumming up Brown can do if the FO constantly disregards the human aspect of things. The first simply wasn't worth the cost to the players. Eventually, Philly has to be a team players want to be part of, and they had a chance to show that and gave it up for a small asset.

    I'm curious to see how KJ McDaniels plays his RFA-Arenas status this off-season. He supposedly wants to stay, so that's not the main issue. I'm just wondering if he's planning on signing a long-term deal there or just take his QO and do it all again in 2016.
    if i'm correct, they paid bonuses last year and were the only team to do so. i could be mistaken though

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    Did Gary Neal pop up in anyone elses head?
    Same here.

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    I'm curious to see how KJ McDaniels plays his RFA-Arenas status this off-season. He supposedly wants to stay, so that's not the main issue. I'm just wondering if he's planning on signing a long-term deal there or just take his QO and do it all again in 2016.
    I guess we know what Philly's answer is.

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