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Max Jimmy Butler
Imagine its the end of the season and Tim Duncan and Manu have annouced their retirement.
How do you go about rebuilding this team.
Your the the GM and have full control.
Trades
Bring in Oversea players ( Which one exactly )
Different line up matches
Any buyouts
Cuts or waive anyone specific
Draft - ( Foreign or American players )
Resign a former player ( George Hill )
Rebuild bench
Go young or sign veteran players
Bring up D leauge players ( Bryce Cotton )
Use more 10 day contracts
Go over the cap or stay fiscally responsible
Take chance with players with red flags ( Larry Sanders )
Run a new offense? ( run and gun, heavy three point, inside/outside )
Max Jimmy Butler
Sign some good above average role players and suck ass for the rest of the season and get a high draft pick.
Parker on the trading block, evaluate who's willing to stay for cheap contracts.. Collect draft picks and rebuild
If Tim retires trade everyone but kawhi and Tony and begin to tank. Tp should help that strategy.
Relocate team to Seattle or St. Louis. Nuke entire team and get athletic American athletes, not soft Eurotrash.
Trade Parker, sign and trade Kawhi, re-sign Bonner. Wait for the next Tim Duncan to fall into their laps.
Trade Tony for draft picks, there has to be a sucker somewhere
Nobody in their right mind will take Tony and his remaining $44 Million... He's a Spur for at least the next 2 years, and very likely all 3.
Mavs might take him... remember Cuban signing Ericka Dampier?
Everyone but Leonard/Green/Mills are expendable, Splitter too if he manages to somehow return to his elite defensive form. Anderson is really intriguing, definitely keep him if he pans out. Mills is just a great player to have on the court and off it, you want him in your locker room.
-Find a mobile stretch 4 to pair with Leonard, with defensive ability, preferably a shot blocker as well, Jean Charles may be that guy.
-Acquire an insanely athletic PG that can distribute and play defense, preferably around 6'4 200lbs, these are becoming pretty common these days.
-Find an athletic shot blocker in general, someone with a post game, maybe a Drummond type player they can draft.
Just a few things I'd do, Green/Leonard are both elite defenders, Mills is a bit above average as well with his pressure and gambling, if you just add a few more guys around them, they will utterly destroy teams, they are so close to an ATG defense. Both Leonard/Green are shot blocking threats, you can potentially have upwards of 4 shot blockers on the court adding the two big men.
They'd all feed off each other's defense, it'd be sick.
What are you getting for Kawhi in this theoretical trade? I don't trade him for anything less than a top 5 pick and at least one if not two other firsts / rookie scale talents.
Keep kiwi/green/cojo. Get rid of everyone else.
I would like Kawhi to stay but if they're going to rebuild might as well go all the way.
Lakers get a top 5 pick, trade him to the Lakers for the pick. Kawhi goes back to So. Cal, Spurs get a top 5 pick, plenty of cap space, and they're likely bad enough to get another top 5 pick the following season.
This, tho I'd keep Mills and Baynes too (if Baynes can be kept for a reasonable contract). See what FAs you can attract, and if none worth a , tank for a year or two.
Gotta get draft picks to rebuild through whatever assets we have.. Tanking doesn't mean we'll get a great player in the draft, they've all been pretty underwhelming unless we pick 1st or 2nd. Gotta get guys who believe in the system and who are willing to put egos aside and work hard who are young enough to actually play hungry.
New York would have 2 years ago, but phil isn't that stupid.
Keep playing Pop's system with what you have left, get a decent big, another wing defender and outside shooter and an enforcer. You'll still make the playoffs.
You only have like 2 teams to compete against for a playoff spot. The rest are competing for a lottery pick.
1. Offer Marc Gasol / LaMarcus Aldridge / Greg Monroe a max contract to replace Duncan.
2. Match any offer sheet for Kawhi Leonard.
3. Bring in Davis Bertans to fill the Matt Bonner role.
4. Bring in Livio Jean-Charles to play the backup SF / small-ball 4 role.
5. Draft a backup SG to replace Ginobili.
6. Offer Bellinelli a $3-4M contract. Let him walk if he demands more.
7. Let Ayres and Joseph walk.
I'd go for a softened landing of 2-3 years in the lottery rebuild keeping Kawhi at the max, which will only be what, 17 to start (Hayward started at a little under 15 this year).
Sign & Trade Green if possible for a pick, otherwise just let him go. He hasn't been too great this year and without Duncan and Manu he's just going to look worse. Let him go. And by 'hasn't been too great' I mean that I don't think he's going to turn into a big-time scorer when Duncan and Manu leave, he'll just be the same roleplayer at a higher salary. Maybe keeping him can mean he'll be traded for picks later like Aflallo, that I would be okay with.
Kawhi carrying the team will miss plenty of games and won't be enough to keep the Spurs out of the lottery in the west, so getting lotto picks for a couple of years won't be too hard.
Splitter, even if he maintains his current poor level, will be movable after 2016 when he has a year left and at only 8.25. Moveable as in it won't cost a pick to get rid of him. And if he plays better, he might even be useful to get a pick back. Regardless, he's not good enough without Duncan and Manu to keep the Spurs from losing games, even at his peak.
Diaw can be bought out for 3 million in summer 2016. He probably can't be moved because of his threats to eat his way into any coach's doghouse if he's not coddled the right way. So he'll have to be tolerated for a year. That's the bad news. The good news is that he's been paid and doesn't try too hard now, and probably try even less next year, so more lost games. And he'll only have to be around another year.
The real problem is Parker. He's horrible enough right now that his contract might need the Spurs to add a first or two just to dump him. There is the slim chance that the Knicks or Lakers will strike out this summer and be desperate enough to take him off the Spurs hands with for a trade exception and something nominal like a second or rights to a pick flop or heavily protected first. Longshot, but possible. Maybe if Parker stops being fat he can fake some numbers enough to get his way into a trade, but there are fewer and fewer buffoonish GMs, and fewer teams that have any need at point guard whatsoever.
Unfortunately Parker is so ... Parker-ish that he would hurt a rebuild with lotto picks by refusing to give them the ball for a long time. Helps lose games, but hurts developing players. He's basically playing like Josh Smith but I don't think RC or Pop have the cajones to just cut him after the team starts sucking. It is what it is though.
Mills isn't some hot commodity either. They probably overstepped with that sympathy contract they gave him. A one year at 5 would have been enough thanks, or a 2/8. But the Spurs might be stuck with him until that last year as his finals will be a distant memory. Maybe the last year he can be dumped for a second, or if lucky, before that.
No one else really matters. Renounce Ayres, Joseph, Belineli, Bonner, Baynes, etc. I like Baynes okay, but he's pretty capped as a role player and he'll be 29 next season. Maybe he can be kept, at 3-4 a year, but it's not a difference maker either way. Sign and trade any if the opportunity arises, otherwise it doesn't matter.
With regards to this summer, renouncing/trading Green will give them enough to make an offer for someone like Monroe, but I wouldn't expect much in the way of big names being gettable. So I would use the money remaining in the following ways:
Big offer sheets to restricted guys who are young enough to survive through a rebuild and improve: Middleton, McDaniels, maybe someone else. Don't even care if the other teams match. Better if they do and they have to pay more than they want, screw 'em.
But more importantly, bring in for sure Bertans and at least one of Hanga/Dangubic. I wouldn't mind both and just see who can emerge like when they went and got both Turkoglu and Mercer. Even getting all three probably wouldn't cost more than like 7.5 total, or 10 at the high end. I do really like Dangubic after having watched quite a few of his games this year. He needs help with his shot, so better to bring him over. He does play against great and okay compe ion there, but is pretty low on the totem pole with regards to getting halfcourt touches, his team is almost too good for him to get a chance to take a huge step as a primary guy. On a lotto team, he'd be pretty much the same, might as well start now.
Don't think LJC matters, or D. Thomas or Denmon and such. If it could get a Parker dump done, I'd add LJC in a heartbeat.
Don't care much about Kyle Anderson either, he's immaterial to me. I don't want players with cement shoes. I think he could probably MCW his way to bloated stats on a lotto team, but I don't like him much.
That leaves concentrating developing modest talents like Bertans, Dangubic/Hanga and the 2015 1st along with Leonard, maybe euro free agents and d-leaguers. With Leonard missing his usual games, fat Diaw, fat Parker, weakened Splitter, and unremarkable Mills, that team in the west ... 25 wins? 30? Not more than 40 I'm sure.
Keep it rolling into another year at least. That would be enough for 2 lotto picks, maybe another lightning strike and 1st overall. Maybe getting an extra first along the way. Keep the capspace until that year 2 or 3 and then make the runs at a Max player or a couple of high value players. By that time the cap will be much higher, and only having Kawhi at a high $ figure along with lotto picks on rookie deals and the euros still under contract for at least another year, that gives great cap flexibility to sign FAs with the a prime 26-27 year old Kawhi with another 2-3 years on his deal.
Last edited by objective; 02-21-2015 at 09:18 AM.
Splitter was never an elite defender
Parkers contract is so depressing. Its not even fun to play armchair GM because of it.
When TD retires I want to see TP play 45 minutes of heroball while the spurs chase the #1 pick. Maybe he'll be miserable enough to retire.
celebrate back2back championship --> stay pat --> go for the 3peat!
Besides #2 .. This is the best plan possible.
As much as I love him, it would be the right move assuming you're completely blowing things up. You'd also save $10 million or so of cap space for the next 4+ years (not that you're going to grab free agents but can trade for guys), though no guarantee that the guy you pick pans out. Looking back at Kawhi's draft and he's one of the top 4 guys picked no matter how you slice it (Irving / Thompson / Butler). Picking top 5 and you have a coin flip at best of a guy panning out like that. You could also probably get assets for Splitter and Green would walk (though could S&T).
Enough being emo though. Let's wait on this talk till the team is eliminated and Duncan hangs it up.
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