View Poll Results: Is Kawhi Leonard a Franchise Player?

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  • Yes, he is/will be a franchise player and he can be the best player on a playoff team, full-time.

    40 34.19%
  • No he won't be a franchise player. He can't be the top guy on a playoff team.

    77 65.81%
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    Emperor Duncan>>>>>King James tim_duncan_fan's Avatar
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    Is Kawhi a franchise player or isn't he?

    Put your name in the yes or no column once and for all and we'll all watch and see how he shakes out.

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    maybe

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    hes no Duncan.

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    No...nice complimentary piece but not a franchise guy.

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    Depends on what that means. Brandon Jennings was Milwaukee's franchise player for awhile.

    If you mean MVP candidate that can make a team a contender solely by playing there ala Duncan, Shaq, LeBron, etc.... no. Even prime Kobe couldn't do that. I love Leonard, but he is Shawn Marion at best imo. No shame in that

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    no. The post-Duncan era is going to be bleak

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    No. He's more of a Scottie Pippen type; a sidekick to a true franchise player.

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    Obviously not, not sure how this is really in question.

    His ceiling is an All-Star caliber player. One thing we do know though - he elevates his game in the playoffs, which makes him more valuable than his regular season stats would suggest.

    The Spurs could do much worse than paying him big money.

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    He's not even close. He's an integral piece to any championship team, but he's not a franchise player.

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    If we're in the playoffs... he'll step up.

    He'll also develop further... but there wont be a Lebron or Duncan level of dominance he'll need more help than Old Tony, Turnobili and Pussiago Splitter. He'll need a legit team around him.

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    Sure, if your franchise is in Philly.

    Look, Spurs are a product and it's Pop's job to make that product appear to be viable for seasons to come. Pop can't say "welp, once TD retires Spurs are ed so it, don't buy season tickets". He instead has to find a franchise player from nothing basically. He can't use Tony, fans are too accustomed to what Tony can and cannot do, and he cannot carry the team as a franchise guy. He's a PG, so he shouldn't be required to and you're ed if he's your best option every night.

    KL doesn't HAVE handles. He won't grow them in the playoffs. He does best when he's allowed to freelance, but he's not good when he has to think about what he's going to do, where he needs to be to catch the ball, all that. He needs to just play defense and look for opportunities at the other end. Maybe that's what Pop has told him, but it's likely he's half committed and half freaked the out with the FMVP and subsequent "franchise player" pressure. He's probably not wanting to be a franchise guy, despite how every player feigns that they want to be THAT guy. The problem with getting your shot at being that guy is that you might not help the team, but you might them up.. (GGGR). Fans won't go back to you when you've been made the franchise guy and it up. Then there's all the money, dude went from nothing to everything, like literally overnight, and the Finals two in a row with a WCF x 3. How many young players can handle that? You can count them on one hand.
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    Not even a sidekick or big three. He is in the same league as Splitter, Green.

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    Kawhi is becoming a franchise player, he's more and more the offensive focus for other teams, and he shows he can handle the attention.

    This has been a hard season for him, he played through the eye injury for two or three months, he missed 20 games with the hand ligament injury, but even if in the last four games he has in a way failed to live up to expectations, he was playing great since his return.

    Obviously, he's not the type of superstar like a pick #1 LeBron or Tim, they're unique to the era they're playing in, but he's the franchise player the Spurs can get post Duncan years
    Last edited by wildchild; 02-21-2015 at 04:21 AM.

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    Remember Cornbread Maxwell? He was another finals MVP, and like Kawhi, he was not a franchise player.

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    Perhaps he can be the second best player on a championship team, I dont see him being the guy on this team. And I love Kawhi but for me he's not the Duncan type.

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    Perhaps he can be the second best player on a championship team, I dont see him being the guy on this team. And I love Kawhi but for me he's not the Duncan type.
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    Perhaps he can be the second best player on a championship team, I dont see him being the guy on this team. And I love Kawhi but for me he's not the Duncan type.

    Just how how many of "the Duncan type" have their been in the history of basketball?

    Quite the high bar...

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    Who ever considered Kawhi a franchise player? The only franchise players in the league right now are LeBron, Durant, Davis, Curry, Westbrook, and Harden.

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    No.. Have said it before he does not have the offensive firepower to be that guy. He is more of a Pippen a great piece of a puzzle but not the main component.

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    Who ever considered Kawhi a franchise player? The only franchise players in the league right now are LeBron, Durant, Davis, Curry, Westbrook, and Harden.
    Pop has called him the future of the Spurs..

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    Just how how many of "the Duncan type" have their been in the history of basketball?

    Quite the high bar...
    Yea I know. It's just that I don't think you can put a team around him and say he'll be the best player on a team that will go far in the payloffs. To me he just doesnt look like the #1 option on a team.

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    Nope.

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    No.. Have said it before he does not have the offensive firepower to be that guy. He is more of a Pippen a great piece of a puzzle but not the main component.
    Pippens like the 10x the player. Team would have 45 wins at this point if they had Pippen

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    He can be a Larry Kenon or Sean ******, but not a franchise player.

    Didn't make the All-star team although some players who have injuries this season did. The glow of the Finals MVP faded pretty fast in folks' minds.

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    Pippens like the 10x the player. Team would have 45 wins at this point if they had Pippen
    True. Pippen was on another world compared to Kawhi.
    On both sides of the ball.
    I really hope he can get to that level on a night in night out basis.
    That would be huge.

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