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Yes. I agree. We don't have anyone who can score at will this season. Parker (even in the playoffs and finals of last season) was able to do that at least 4-5 times a game. Now we don't have that.
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Yes. I agree. We don't have anyone who can score at will this season. Parker (even in the playoffs and finals of last season) was able to do that at least 4-5 times a game. Now we don't have that.
This is Pop trying to make Tony feel important, tbh... it's like that condescending "great leadership" (aka: thanks for getting out of the way) Finals talk...^^Ya that makes plenty of sense..the team was literally better without him during both the regular season and playoffs, but ya, they want as far as he took them..
What really sucks is that's still not working...
Forget the trolling and feuds, I just want your opinion..basketball-wise, why do you think the Spurs were significantly worse when Parker was on the floor in last year's regular season and playoffs?
^^^^The other day it was Pop was "calling him out", now it is "Pop is trying to make Tony feel important". Is there a possibility that Pop considers the 2013 Parker to be critical to the team getting its offensive mojo back?
I don't think we are going to see a 2013 Parker any time soon (no evidence of him this season), but we certainly haven't seen a 'hero-balling" Tony lately either, and for the longest time his 'taking too many shots' was the conventional wisdom's take on why the team looked so bad.
Can we be a bit honest here and admit that outside of Tim Duncan NO ONE ON THE TEAM looks decent of late? No one.
I think Pop is pulling all the stops, tbh... as he should.
It is clear that Pop knows he needs TP. Fairyston and his transparent alt accounts can troll to save face, but the reality is that Pop knows what all informed posters know -- TP is the key to drawing attention and creating the mismatches that the Spurs need to run the offense day in and day out.
If you run Pop's system with a bunch of scrubs, you have Philadelphia. You still need elite players. TP has been that guy for the last 3 years. This year he has either lost his mojo, is hurting, or some combination thereof. I guarantee he and Pop talk about it. I guarantee we will never hear what the story really is. But ty posters can keep bringing this forum into the toilet.
All trolling aside, why do you think the Spurs were significantly better without Parker on the floor last season and in last year's playoffs? Just wondering what your take is, tbh..it wasn't a slight improvement without him, it was a dramatic and substantial improvement..
Give me a response without antiquated basketball cliches, please..I know that's going to be difficult for your Barkley/Byron Scott-idolizing ass, but try it..Last year's regular season:
Last year's playoffs:
We haven't seen it because he's unable to heroball anymore. When TP's not scoring, he's useless. That's why he looks so awful right now. Without the ability to penetrate, his offensive repertoire is no different than Bruce Bowen's. Other great point guards either have elite shooting or passing. TP has neither.
Yep, his game relies or relied on speed similar to AI's, once that was gone most of his game was gone. If you rely on one thing to be dominant and do not develop other parts of your game like say Tim Duncan would then you don't adapt. He relies on speed, that is not good long term. Tony lost a step, his game fell off big time. I hope he is just hurt but I doubt that is it in all reality.
Parker has always relied on the system to initially create separation for him (through play calling and Duncan screens), gets the mismatch, lets his speed create the rest of the separation with slight body contact at the end to create the rest of separation, if it's a shot blocker on him he'll just rinse and repeat without success, severely limited offensive player. Less Illgauskus, Goodens, Currys of the NBA, more mobile big men that can alter Parker's shot.
PG's are getting much bigger and stronger too, not seeing as many 6'2 180lb guys, and if they are, they've got sick athleticism Parker can't guard. TP can't make it in the new NBA without a prime TD by his side, no coincidence as he declines, Parker declines. Defensively he hasn't been able to guard anyone in years.
I happen to agree with this. His value has always been his ability and willingness to execute Pop's offense. But you are right, his ability to do that was largely a function of his speed and stamina. He used to show a lot of courage penetrating in the paint, but he can't do that with enough speed to get to the rim without the ball being stripped anymore. He developed a decent floater, but I haven't seen any of that lately and have no idea what happened to it.
All this is to say, he looks terrible this year. It just baffles me how a guy can start missing shots that he made his entire career unless he is injured (and there is no evidence of that anymore). But it has happened to more than Tony this year. It has happened to Manu and Marco and Kawhi and Patty. And I don't think they are injured either.
Manu's 37 which is ancient for a SG. I'm still amazed we were able to get that incredible playoff run from him last year.
Marco has always sucked. If we're talking about overall importance to the Spurs, he's not worth bringing up.
Patty and Kawhi are coming back from injuries that can affect shooting. Shoulder for Patty. Eye and hand for Kawhi. Pop's rotations aren't helping them gain any sort of rhythm either.
If Patty and Kawhi are coming back from injuries, so is Parker.
I have no reason to believe Pop is playing a mind game or giving false props to Tony. We are looking bad and a big part of it is TP's inability to flip the switch. Yes in game 5 of the Finals he was a non-issue...until the fourth quarter and his play kept the Heat at bay.
the only posters saying this are the same fans that wished injury on Parker a few weeks back in another thread. I don't think they need to be taken seriously.
I mentioned a while back that Pop should emphasize more that floater. But for some reason, I've seen the Spurs run a few plays for Tony off the curl, but he's not taking the floater. He goes to the basket and either tries the layup or backs out. You have to wonder if there are confidence issues at this point too. It's pretty brutal to watch your game drop off like that.
Yeah, I don't take them seriously or think of them as fans. Pop likely feels the way we all do and hopes Tony can come around. I believe it's a subtle difference but a huge one between being almost healthy and healthy. Yes Cojo has shown a lot of heart , but he isn't on TP's level as far as being a player that team's base their game around. I'm completely grateful to all these guys for giving it all they got year after year. It would make for one of a follow up story if they can find themselves!
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