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    Tony Parker ranked 483 out of 490 players in ESPN's Real Plus Minus at minus 5.58. This is mind-boggling...

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    Tony Parker ranked 483 out of 490 players in ESPN's Real Plus Minus at minus 5.58. This is mind-boggling...
    still got three more years of this in store for us. Going to be a bumpy ride for Spurs fans

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    Parker looks off and every time my wife sees him on TV she says he looks bad and his complection looks wrong. Could just be that he's gained weight.

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    Just give the whole team a rest. How about a couple of weeks. Can rotate the players. Use D-League callups. The problem is they've playing too much due to all the postseason play.

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    Why would a team that won a championship in dominant style mix up their personnel? If they all got old, that happens. I think the Spurs are coasting since the West is so deep seeding is almost irrelevant.
    I don't think they are coasting at all honestly but we will see. I think they just got older and some are tired after some deep runs, it happens. Coasting though is a? Thats wishful thinking. Seeding to me is relevant as in if there is a game 7 it's huge at home, otherwise they might steal a series or two but the whole playoffs on the road is basically unheard of sides the Rockets run in 95 and Knicks in 99 and maybe one or two examples, that is how rare it is (Houston the lowest seed at 6 to win it all, got healthy at the right time).
    Just give the whole team a rest. How about a couple of weeks. Can rotate the players. Use D-League callups. The problem is they've playing too much due to all the postseason play.
    I agree, long runs for years now catch up.

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    Parker looks off and every time my wife sees him on TV she says he looks bad and his complection looks wrong. Could just be that he's gained weight.
    His wife did just have a baby. His first. Maybe he's staying up late with the baby and snacking.

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    His wife did just have a baby. His first. Maybe he's staying up late with the baby and snacking.
    With all his millions I would guess he has a live in nanny to handle the kid in the middle of the night.

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    William is fat and slow. Without his speed he's useless.

    He can't beat any of today's top young points off the dribble and can't guard any of them either.

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    Tony will have to adapt his game as other greats have done when they aged. Right now though Corey can hit shots and get to the basket.

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    He needs minutes to get in game shape. He's not going to do that by sitting on the bench.
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    Tony needs to play a lot

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    I think this is a good observation in the main. The team DID win it all last year with everyone on the team playing and passing and making shots. The validity of this observation, however, Rob, belies all the gazillion posts saying that the only thing wrong with the team this year is Parker. Folks can't have it both ways logically...either he is critical to the success of the team (as per Hater and Popovich) or he really doesn't matter because he hasn't played well in years and the team has won without him.
    I agree that Parker is in the midst of the worst season of his career. He looks horrid. People in here end up defending him just because it is impossible for one guy - ANY guy - to be so totally responsible for everything that is wrong with this team.
    Parker is not responsible for everyone on the team shooting poorly at the three point line...and they are doing that when he is on the court and off the court.
    Parker is not responsible for the team shooting so poorly at the free throw line. He has nothing to do with that.
    Parker is responsible for HIS turnovers (which are too many) but he is not responsible for Kawhi's turnovers or Manu's turnovers or Tim's turnovers or Splitter's, etc. etc. etc.
    I honestly would also like to see Cojo start at pg, at least for a while. I don't know if it will work or not because when he starts he is much less consistent in his aggressiveness on offense, and if he is not aggressive on offense, we are playing 4 on 5 down there and we get creamed. But I think it is worth a shot. Have no idea why Pop won't do it. Cojo has limited talent, but so Parker at this point. So does everybody else at this point.
    Right now this team looks like because ALL of our players (except Tim) are playing like . And it is on ALL of them to get their heads out of their respective asses.
    Do you remember when we lost in the WCF in 2012 and Pop said that he thought that the team "had gotten further than they should have", clearly implying that they played above themselves to get to the WCF? I think that Pop thinks that way about this team this year, and I think they are living down to his expectations.
    This is a perfect example of an out of touch poster that doesn't understand statistics or how to think analytically.

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    Tony needs to play a lot
    Seems like someone wants to lose..

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    He has a negative net rating (-2.6, in fact), the worst defensive rating for any rotation player besides Marco Belinelli, a below-average PER of 14.9 (worse than Cory Joseph's). Most worrying, he's been worse than a replacement-level player, according to basketball-reference.com. When Parker's been off the floor, the Spurshave an Offensive Rating of 105.4 and a Defensive Rating of 96.3, numbers that would trail only the Warriors. With Parker on the floor however, the Spurs are essentially the Sacramento Kings.

    TP ranks 78 out of 79 eligible PGs in Wins Above Replacement at -2.55 and 77 out of 79 in Real Plus Minus numbers at -5.95. CoJo ranks 19th in both categories while Mills ranks 30 and 43rd respectively. To give you a better perspective on how bad this is, Jameer Nelson is ranked ahead of TP in these categories with similar minutes played.



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    Just Rique away inside outside, JUST RIQUE AWAY UPSIDE DOWN!.

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    I think this is a good observation in the main. The team DID win it all last year with everyone on the team playing and passing and making shots. The validity of this observation, however, Rob, belies all the gazillion posts saying that the only thing wrong with the team this year is Parker. Folks can't have it both ways logically...either he is critical to the success of the team (as per Hater and Popovich) or he really doesn't matter because he hasn't played well in years and the team has won without him.

    I agree that Parker is in the midst of the worst season of his career. He looks horrid. People in here end up defending him just because it is impossible for one guy - ANY guy - to be so totally responsible for everything that is wrong with this team.

    Parker is not responsible for everyone on the team shooting poorly at the three point line...and they are doing that when he is on the court and off the court.

    Parker is not responsible for the team shooting so poorly at the free throw line. He has nothing to do with that.

    Parker is responsible for HIS turnovers (which are too many) but he is not responsible for Kawhi's turnovers or Manu's turnovers or Tim's turnovers or Splitter's, etc. etc. etc.



    I honestly would also like to see Cojo start at pg, at least for a while. I don't know if it will work or not because when he starts he is much less consistent in his aggressiveness on offense, and if he is not aggressive on offense, we are playing 4 on 5 down there and we get creamed. But I think it is worth a shot. Have no idea why Pop won't do it. Cojo has limited talent, but so Parker at this point. So does everybody else at this point.


    Right now this team looks like because ALL of our players (except Tim) are playing like . And it is on ALL of them to get their heads out of their respective asses.

    Do you remember when we lost in the WCF in 2012 and Pop said that he thought that the team "had gotten further than they should have", clearly implying that they played above themselves to get to the WCF?

    I think that Pop thinks that way about this team this year, and I think they are living down to his expectations.
    To be fair parkers inability to penetrate and dish the ball is leading to much poorer 3pt looks in general. It certainly doesnt explain all the three point struggles but a healthy parker gets dg and belly open threes at a good clip.

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