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    Damn, this was almost 12 years ago.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ht=creationist

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    Smh looks like we'll always have idiots around this world like this:

    ... The creationist reflected on proposals made by Scottish Parliament Member John Mason, who has argued that since the belief that God created the world cannot be "proved or disproved by science," then it needs to be taught alongside evolution.

    http://m.christianpost.com/news/ken-...-both--134646/
    smh

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    We need a religious sub forum IMO

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    OP is an atheist got.

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    Lol rob right on cue, doing work for Jesus

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    Don't we have enough threads about Kanye as it is?

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    Disproving an omnipotent/omniscient being will require omniscience itself. Since science is not omniscient, it cannot prove or disprove the existence of such a being.

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    Disproving an omnipotent/omniscient being will require omniscience itself. Since science is not omniscient, it cannot prove or disprove the existence of such a being.
    This is semantic masturbation. You don't even know what omniscient means other than in the most vague sense. So hey why not conflate the two notions into a circle and pretend you have any clue wtf you are talking about.

    The flying spaghetti monster was created to demonstrate the absurdity of your approach.

    Disproving a flying spaghetti monster being will require flying spaghetti monster itself. Since science is not flying spaghetti monster, it cannot prove or disprove the existence of flying spaghetti monster.

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    This is semantic masturbation. You don't even know what omniscient means other than in the most vague sense. So hey why not conflate the two notions into a circle and pretend you have any clue wtf you are talking about.

    The flying spaghetti monster was created to demonstrate the absurdity of your approach.

    Disproving a flying spaghetti monster being will require flying spaghetti monster itself. Since science is not flying spaghetti monster, it cannot prove or disprove the existence of flying spaghetti monster.
    Dude... are you really that dumb? Nowhere did I say that science had to be "God". Science just has to be omniscient to prove/disprove his existence. Science does not also have to mimic his omnipotence. So, nice try.

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    Dude... are you really that dumb? Nowhere did I say that science had to be "God". Science just has to be omniscient to prove/disprove his existence. Science does not also have to mimic his omnipotence. So, nice try.
    Science isn't out to disprove his existence. There's no need to.

    But if Bible beaters are gonna keep crying that creationism belongs in science class, then they need to prove God exists.

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    Science isn't out to disprove his existence. There's no need to.

    But if Bible beaters are gonna keep crying that creationism belongs in science class, then they need to prove God exists.
    I just don't understand why the atheist would jump to conclusions when our current knowledge of the universe is extremely limited. We haven't even fully discovered everything on our planet, and yet people claim to have the answer to the ultimate question. I was under the impression that the atheist understands how insignificant we all are, but it is proving to be just a bunch of hubris. Claiming that a "God" doesn't exist is a ridiculously bold statement given our limited knowledge. One could argue that claiming that "God" exists is equally ridiculous.

    It is in my opinion that the argument of "God" existing carries much more weight. The reason is simple. We are still in scientific infancy and there is absolutely no way we can know or prove without a shred of doubt that a "God" could in fact, exist or not exist. I choose to keep the door open to the possibility of "God" existing because I don't think that we as a species know enough to make a claim ruling out possibility. That is just plain foolish.

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    I choose to keep the door open to the possibility of "God" existing because I don't think that we as a species know enough to make a claim ruling out possibility. That is just plain foolish.
    what's foolish about it? Missing out on heaven?

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    what's foolish about it? Missing out on heaven?
    No. Nothing to do with religion or God even. It is just foolish to assume something doesn't exist when the reality is that we barely know about the universe.

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    No. Nothing to do with religion or God even. It is just foolish to assume something doesn't exist when the reality is that we barely know about the universe.
    do you think it's possible that Zeus exists?

    it's more foolish to add God to a science textbook without showing some evidence of his existence.

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    do you think it's possible that Zeus exists?

    it's more foolish to add God to a science textbook without showing some evidence of his existence.
    I am a person who lives in the world of possibility. Yes, it is quite possible that Zeus existed or does exist. Why is it possible? Because I understand that we simply don't know enough to say he couldn't or can't exist.

    Do I believe "God" should be in textbooks? Yes. Perhaps not science, but definitely in history.

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    if Bible beaters are gonna keep crying that creationism belongs in science class, then they need to prove God exists.
    I can agree with that statement why teach something that has not been proven like Man Evolving from a fish.

    whats that? ....... there is no proof?

    Then why is it in the textbooks? Typical Blake living a life of contradiction and self imposed ignorance.




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    Blake your outside the bubble



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    I am a person who lives in the world of possibility. Yes, it is quite possible that Zeus existed or does exist. Why is it possible? Because I understand that we simply don't know enough to say he couldn't or can't exist.
    well if that helps you, great, but there's really nothing lost by saying definitively that zeus doesn't exist.

    Do I believe "God" should be in textbooks? Yes. Perhaps not science, but definitely in history.
    the entire issue is about God in science books.

    Creationist nuts want to put intelligent design in school age science books.

    Which is incredibly foolish.

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    Oh. That happens to be the approximate number of times you've posted that picture

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    No. Nothing to do with religion or God even. It is just foolish to assume something doesn't exist when the reality is that we barely know about the universe.
    Religion played an important role in history (e.g., the crusades), so of course religion should be taught in school, but only within the context of how it influenced historical events.

    Like Blake mentioned, the whole debate is about keeping it out of science textbooks where it can pretend it's equally legitimate.

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    Dude... are you really that dumb? Nowhere did I say that science had to be "God". Science just has to be omniscient to prove/disprove his existence. Science does not also have to mimic his omnipotence. So, nice try.
    I never said you did but aren't you an administrator type at a church school? That makes you a professional proselytizer. We also know that Jesus is very explicit in his response to lukewarm takes of faith like yours here. Have fun with your God.

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    Afraid to look at a creationism search for all my bull past ignorance. Sorry again to the OP, BB, RG and others for my terrible science.

    that said I do choose to believe in God... i realize how silly a prospect that is but nonetheless, I admit I cling to a misplaced unnecessary faith.

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    I never said you did but aren't you an administrator type at a church school? That makes you a professional proselytizer. We also know that Jesus is very explicit in his response to lukewarm takes of faith like yours here. Have fun with your God.
    Nope. I don't go to church actually. I for one can't really stand religion. Too many two faced assholes at church trying to prove who has more faith and it basically turns into a pissing contest. I don't have time for that, nor do I want to be distracted in my search for God. That being said, religion does have it's uses. It does try to teach morality and being good to each other which are ideas I can agree with. I just hate it when it is so easily manipulated to suit agendas. Hence why I am more spiritual than religious. I do believe in a supreme being without a shred of doubt. There are just too many things that I have noticed to be written off as coincidence.

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    Religion played an important role in history (e.g., the crusades), so of course religion should be taught in school, but only within the context of how it influenced historical events.

    Like Blake mentioned, the whole debate is about keeping it out of science textbooks where it can pretend it's equally legitimate.
    I agree with Blake that perhaps "God" doesn't really need to be in science, but definitely history and social studies books. There are many cultures in the world that use religion as the base for their society.

    I love science. It is fun and so full of possibility and knowledge. I think that science could actually help believers understand "God" better actually.

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