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    That won a championship with a starting guard having a negative BPM number:

    1992 Bulls- John Paxson
    1994 Rockets- Vernon Maxwell
    1999 Spurs- Avery Johnson
    2003 Spurs- Tony Parker
    2005 Spurs- Tony Parker
    2009 Lakers- Derek Fisher
    2014 Spurs- Tony Parker

    That makes the Spurs' run even more impressive IMO..

    http://bkref.com/tiny/BnZRt

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    Oh look, another thread.

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    How have the Spurs managed to get around this, IYO?

    Is it merely a matter of Duncan's top-5 all-time impact?

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    I feel sad for Tony tbh. I was a big fan of MVParker back when heroball worked. Now, he's so bad that no knowledgeable person could defend him in any way be it by the eye-test, raw stats, advanced stats. And now there are talks of locker room problems. Just this season imho.

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    poor creature trying to bump his 2 meltdown threads to 2nd page

    not on my watch...

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    How have the Spurs managed to get around this, IYO?

    Is it merely a matter of Duncan's top-5 all-time impact?
    The system and last year, Pop's coaching was pretty on-point aside from that Mavs series.

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    I never realized he had such little impact in previous seasons, though..

    I know he's been generally underwhelming in the playoffs, and was a liability last year, but I didn't realize he was actually having a negative impact on those Spurs' championship teams outside of 2007..

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    Aside from 2007 and the almost championship in 2013, Parker has really been underwhelming in the playoffs compared to his usual great regular season stats.

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    How have the Spurs managed to get around this, IYO?

    Is it merely a matter of Duncan's top-5 all-time impact?
    It's a function of other players' stepping up when opposing defenses focus on Parker and alter their defensive plans to deal with him.

    Not rocket science.

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    It's a function of other players' stepping up when opposing defenses focus on Parker and alter their defensive plans to deal with him.

    Not rocket science.
    Why do the Spurs' succeed so much when he's on the bench, though?

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    Why do the Spurs' succeed so much when he's on the bench, though?
    spurs are 7-7 without Parker re

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    Tbh I think Parker will really do better as the 2nd pg. Takes of less pressure and the 2nd unit of the other team is relatively weaker, so he and manu can wreck havoc. Let Cojo and Mills switch each game for the starting spot, it makes the starting line-up more stable and defensively better while giving the 2nd unit a new look with a supposed to be top 5 nba pg.

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    He is what teams focus on during the playoffs. IMO the Spurs' system for so long was heavily reliant on Parker penetrating and dishing the ball that all team's had to do was focus on stopping Parker and the Spurs would be easier to defend if their shooters were bricking (lol Hedo). 2003 Tim was just on another level rarely seen by NBA players and Parker was a 2nd year player. In 2005 Spurs played some great defensive teams but Tim was still Tim and Manu was unstoppable. Last season he didn't even play that bad but his backup was just on fire and playing with all kinds of confidence every game.

    Parker is right now but trying to act like he was some putrid cancer that has been dragging us down and that we've won in spite of him is just not true.

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    I just hope that he turns it around tbh. I miss that dude, gone for two season already.

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    Why do the Spurs' succeed so much when he's on the bench, though?
    Using the Nets series as one example, they went back to their conventional defense with Kidd guarding Claxton, which turned out to be just as bad as Kidd guarding Parker -- but hipsters never realized that and deified Speedy.

    It's actually been a luxury having opponents game plan for Parker basically his entire career. Hopefully he gets his early season form back so that can happen again.

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    Oh look, another thread.
    Oh look, dumpster not contributing in a thread.

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    2003 Spurs- Tony Parker
    Shows how much of beast Duncan was that he could carry the team on his own with this scrub playing at such a negative level.

    2005 Spurs- Tony Parker
    TD couldn't do it himself this time. Needed Manu to help offset the negative effects of the French cancer

    2014 Spurs- Tony Parker
    Needed everyone to put together the GOAT team performance in NBA history in order to overcome the disease this time around

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    So, apparently Tony Parker is the only player in NBA history to have opposing teams game plan for him..

    God, these excuses are becoming comical..

    Again, that doesn't explain why the Spurs were better with Parker on the bench for 3 of the 4 les with him on the roster..

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    So, apparently Tony Parker is the only player in NBA history to have opposing teams game plan for him.
    lol straw man

    Leave of absence really got to you tbh.

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    only 7 teams in history, and apparently the Spurs were the only team that had opposing coaches game-planning against them..

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    only 7 teams in history, and apparently the Spurs were the only team that had opposing coaches game-planning against them..
    lol repeating straw man

    "leave of absence"

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    It's actually embarrassing that Tony's playoff numbers are so ty when Duncan and Manu were receiving the majority of the defensive attention back in the 2000s. A better player would have taken advantage of those holes in the defense. Not Tony though. Only time he seemed to do it was against the Cavs in '07. Most of the time, he choked.

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    It's actually embarrassing that Tony's playoff numbers are so ty when Duncan and Manu were receiving the majority of the defensive attention back in the 2000s. A better player would have taken advantage of those holes in the defense. Not Tony though. Only time he seemed to do it was against the Cavs in '07. Most of the time, he choked.
    lol revisionist

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    Why do the Spurs' succeed so much when he's on the bench, though?
    All the opposing players are near the bench focusing on him.

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    It's actually embarrassing that Tony's playoff numbers are so ty when Duncan and Manu were receiving the majority of the defensive attention back in the 2000s. A better player would have taken advantage of those holes in the defense. Not Tony though. Only time he seemed to do it was against the Cavs in '07. Most of the time, he choked.
    4 time NBA CHAMPION. He's a winner and you know it.

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