If Duncan leaves next year how much will the Spurs need to pay Baynes ?
Splitter sucks dixk. Blair him on the Spurs and in the mavs series. Baynes out plays him this year
Your argument is that Splitter and Lopez are basically the same player and should have the same value. That's simply not true.
They've played the same amount of games this year. Both are worthless outside the paint but Tiago is a much better finisher, better passer and a more versatile defender.
No...my argument is that Lopez for 3 years/$15 million is a better deal than Splitter for 4 years/$36 million. There's a huge difference in those contracts. There's not a huge difference in their impact on the court.
1) Lopez over his career is shooting 66.4% at the rim. Splitter is shooting 68%. Splitter isn't a "much better finisher".
2) Lopez is only 26 years old, while Splitter is 30.
3) They've played the same amount of games this season, but if you look at their careers, Lopez definitely appears to be more durable.
Yes, Splitter is better than Lopez. No, I don't think he's so much better that it makes up for the very noticeable difference in their contracts.
First, that is pretty much the argument that ElNono said you made. Second, that wasn't even the point. The point is that Portland didn't get a better "deal" on Lopez' contract. They should regret the Spurs matching, because the player they missed out on completely ruined their chances of making a deep post-season run. Moreover, it's not like Portland needed that extra $4 Million for other players, so the actual difference in "value" for their contracts is minimal.
Portland would probably be a true contender with Splitter instead of Lopez. Robin is definitely cheaper, but he's a backup on a team with a championship-caliber big rotation. I'd love to have Lopez on that contract to back up Splitter, though.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think Portland getting 20-25 mpg of Splitter rather than 30 mpg of Lopez would make them legitimate contenders.
But that's exactly what I said. You think there's not a big difference between the two of them, and I disagree with that.
And FWIW, I'm aware Splitter has had a down season so far, but that doesn't cloud what he's done before...
Exactly. Tiago's BBIQ is really what makes him such a great player and that doesn't show up directly in individual stats.
Tiago is a professional that has made a career before even making the NBA. I'm not even sure it's fair to compare them.
Robin Lopez looks like a good, young big, that's still learning, and I'm sure if he keeps playing well, he'll get his $9m payday one day.
This discussion is so ridiculous. We rang, he was important piece. Who cares.
I don't want to come off as one of those one issue Spursforum posters by any means, but shiiiiit I feel way better about this contract than what we gave Tony Parker tbh, his historical contributions notwithstanding. What's more likely, a 30 year old big man returning to some semblance of form or a 32 year old PG with tons of playoff minutes who relied heavily on pre-injury quickness? Splitter has way less ground to cover in returning to form than TP, so god forbid Parker doesn't bounce back that contract we gave him is gonna be my real payroll bummer going forward. Even with Diaw inconsistent as well.
Ah, how quickly people forget how important Splitter was last year against Portland, Memphis, and especially Dallas, on our way to 5. He's earned it, and then some.
Some people really underrate Splitter's impact.
I agree with you fully, they really do.
Yeah. When him and TD are manning the middle it allows Kawhi and Green to aggressively defend on the wings. That improves our defense and makes us a much better team. In general teams want to start their best defensive players because that allows you to start the game with a defensive mindset that makes it hard for the other team to get it going on offense.
Splitter's been really good the last two games. He's been very good defensively. This is more of what I am looking for from Tiago.
He's been a bit more aggressive on offense too, which is a good thing.
He went toe to toe with blair who makes about a ninth of what splitter makes. Splitter was thoroughly outplayed by blair. This can't even be discussed it was so one sided.
Splitter played a great portland series, then too ty to play in the biggest series.
He can't rebound, can't shoot, and is overrated defensively.
With all that being said he will be needed for minutes for the Spurs to go deep.
It's not as bad as watching Antonio mcdyess but it's getting close
Is blair even in the league right now? I looked it up:
Washington Wizards Previous 10: Games 6.5 minutes .500 FG 2.0 Rebounds 3 points.
Blair and splitter went toe to toe on offense for a time. Blair was definitely more motivated and useful when both he and splitter were on the team at the same time. But last years playoff splitter obliterates any version of Blair you can dream up. It's hard not to accuse you of ignoring the defensive side of each man's game.
I think what you mean to say is that Splitter has been poor this year and is frustrating to watch because he's no a dominant big man. He's not exactly a finesse big, just a skilled rather than athletic big. That's why he's a starting caliber big while Blair sits on the bench and Lopez is only a borderline starting quality big.
Basically, if you prefer the spurs have an energy guy that's fine. Just don't say Splitter has been disappointing. Even with the injuries he's still the best big that the spurs could realistically afford.
Could care less about what blair is doing now. He ed splitter from behind in the mavs series. And splitter is a girl
pretty sure Tiago was too busy taking Dirk's cookie to worry about what Blair was doing.
tholdren doesn't know what the he's talking about. Blair's a marginal player in the NBA.
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