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    All this talk of "meaningless award" yet the pic of MJ, Tim and Kobe and what's there beside them as a comparison? Meaningless MVP awards.

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    All this talk of "meaningless award" yet the pic of MJ, Tim and Kobe and what's there beside them as a comparison? Meaningless MVP awards.
    I think being an MVP but not being a champion makes the former much more meaningless. It's the difference between being a Duncan or Lebron or Bryant, and being Steve ing Nash.

    James Harden may be able to earn an MVP season, but he'll never win a championship because the refs ain't gonna reward his 'barrel into the lane' style through four 7-game series.

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    I think being an MVP but not being a champion makes the former much more meaningless. It's the difference between being a Duncan or Lebron or Bryant, and being Steve ing Nash.

    James Harden may be able to earn an MVP season, but he'll never win a championship because the refs ain't gonna reward his 'barrel into the lane' style through four 7-game series.
    A player cannot create a championship alone. He needs to be part of a championship team. Tim's 1st MVP came in a year in which he did not win a ring.

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    Being an MVP is a huge deal and it's definitely something to root for, I can understand rockets fans wanting him to get the award. But yeah this rockets team is a 1st round out most likely, unless dwight is the dwight of last years playoffs.

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    A player cannot create a championship alone. He needs to be part of a championship team. Tim's 1st MVP came in a year in which he did not win a ring.
    I don't think the MVP and the ring even have to come in the same season. Just seems to me that players who have won MVPs AND rings seem to be regarded as upper echelon...while the players who won MVPs but never could bring their team to the le (Nash, Barkley, Malone) seem a rung below.

    I agree that it's probably not really fair because any MVP is still going to need the right team around him...but fans and history just tend to remember things the way they do.

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    Gotta say I'm glad to see Terrence Jones coming back strong. I was a fan of his at Kentucky and was blown away when he fell so low in the draft.
    I like him as well ...but he can never stay healthy. IF he could i think he has a good future not sure about star potential but I think a quality starter on a legit contender is possible. Rox may prove to be that but I still have some doubts.

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    I don't think the MVP and the ring even have to come in the same season. Just seems to me that players who have won MVPs AND rings seem to be regarded as upper echelon...while the players who won MVPs but never could bring their team to the le (Nash, Barkley, Malone) seem a rung below.

    I agree that it's probably not really fair because any MVP is still going to need the right team around him...but fans and history just tend to remember things the way they do.

    He's young. If he wins the MVP now, and it's considered "meaningless", how can it become meaningful in later years when he wins a championship? It's either meaningful or it's not.

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    That's true with the Rockets, not with the Texans. You don't remember people driving around with a plastic dead body of Schaub in their trunks?
    Texans are just as bad....clamoring for JJ Watt to win MVP when they barely went over .500. It's that mentality that has prevailed with Houston sports fans since as long as I can remember...that's part of the reason Houston teams never wins chet (thank god for Hakeem going god mode)...its fans settle for division championships, player awards....etc...but never les.

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    Texans are just as bad....clamoring for JJ Watt to win MVP when they barely went over .500. It's that mentality that has prevailed with Houston sports fans since as long as I can remember...that's part of the reason Houston teams never wins chet (thank god for Hakeem going god mode)...its fans settle for division championships, player awards....etc...but never les.
    No they aren't as bad. If they were Kubiak would still be there. The Rockets have had a load of first round exits in the last 20 years, Houston fans seem content with that and that is MUCH worse. Were you expecting a le out of O'Brien last year?

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    No they aren't as bad. If they were Kubiak would still be there. The Rockets have had a load of first round exits in the last 20 years, Houston fans seem content with that and that is MUCH worse. Were you expecting a le out of O'Brien last year?
    Kubiak was there for what seemed like forever. He gave the city only 2 good but disappointing years. I wasn't expecting anything out of the Texans last year. I never expect anything at of Houston sports teams anymore. Now, when they do well I'm pleasantly surprised.

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    Kubiak was there for what seemed like forever. He gave the city only 2 good but disappointing years. I wasn't expecting anything out of the Texans last year. I never expect anything at of Houston sports teams anymore. Now, when they do well I'm pleasantly surprised.
    Same here. Damn shame San Antonio has 150% more les with only one team (UTSA is new).

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