Danny Green, stud.

[Chinook]

Hope he stays. He will go the way of Gary Neal and other "great role players" that took big money and disappeared. I strongly believe this Spurs team is just the perfect fit for him.

If D'Antoni goes to Denver and installs the SSOL there, then that would be an even better fit for Danny. He gets to run around in transition all day long, and that offense can generate open threes as much as any offense can.

More importantly, it's a myth that the Spurs' role-players disappear other places. Sure, their fringe players disappear. But Danny is much closer to Hill and Jack than he is to Neal and Blair. The two former guys had/have had plenty of success away from the team. , actually, both of the two latter guys have played well outside of the Spurs, but they have gone to situations where they were buried on the depth chart. Danny with a ring or two and a Finals record isn't going to go that way.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Green is staying. Spurs have more than enough room under the Tax to bring everyone back.

Green knows he wouldn't even be in the league if it weren't for Pop. Green turn down 1.5-2mil dollars a year more from Utah and other teams last time he signed with the Spurs. He said so himself. And the reason he gave was because he was loyal to Pop because he wouldn't be in the NBA right now if it weren't for him.

Spurs always get these type of unselfish players. Parker is the only semi-selfish player the Spurs have had on the roster the past 10 years.

[apalisoc_9]

Green is staying. Spurs have more than enough room under the Tax to bring everyone back.

Green knows he wouldn't even be in the league if it weren't for Pop. Green turn down 1.5-2mil dollars a year more from Utah and other teams last time he signed with the Spurs. He said so himself. And the reason he gave was because he was loyal to Pop because he wouldn't be in the NBA right now if it weren't for him.

Spurs always get these type of unselfish players. Parker is the only semi-selfish player the Spurs have had on the roster the past 10 years.

100% agree.

[Splits]

Parker is the only semi-selfish player the Spurs have had on the roster the past 10 years.

after he just re-signed the last big deal of his career, well under market value? GTFO here

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

after he just re-signed the last big deal of his career, well under market value? GTFO here

That is why I said Semi-Selfish. Parker is like a Manic-Depressive with his Selfishness, where it comes in waves. Sometimes he is a totally unselfish player and plays Spurs basketball at its finest. Then the next day he will be both, selfish Tony but still shows elements of Spurs Basketball. Then the next day he becomes full fledged selfish Parker. Skip Bayless says it best where he just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and doesn't pass the ball to save his life.

Parker is an enigma in that way. But no, he is nothing like say Kobe who is entirely selfish. Even Horry noted that the only player on the Spur team that had elements of selfishness was Parker. He was his actual teammate and in the locker room with him, so yeah, I would think he would know.

[Splits]

That is why I said Semi-Selfish. Parker is like a Manic-Depressive with his Selfishness, where it comes in waves. Sometimes he is a totally unselfish player and plays Spurs basketball at its finest. Then the next day he will be both, selfish Tony but still shows elements of Spurs Basketball. Then the next day he becomes full fledged selfish Parker. Skip Bayless says it best where he just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and doesn't pass the ball to save his life.

Parker is an enigma in that way. But no, he is nothing like say Kobe who is entirely selfish. Even Horry noted that the only player on the Spur team that had elements of selfishness was Parker. He was his actual teammate and in the locker room with him, so yeah, I would think he would know.

Well on-court vs. $$ selfish are two entirely different things. Your post presumed the latter, since you were talking about Green, lux tax, and his last contract giving up millions. When it comes to giving up personal wealth for the betterment of the team, Parker is no different than any other Spur.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Well on-court vs. $$ selfish are two entirely different things. Your post presumed the latter, since you were talking about Green, lux tax, and his last contract giving up millions. When it comes to giving up personal wealth for the betterment of the team, Parker is no different than any other Spur.

I guess it was easy to infer that from my post. But no, Parker has shown money isn't that important to him. Not only this contract, but the last one, he signed way below his market value. I am just talking about his on the court play.

I am just saying Parker is like the only Spur that doesn't have the COMPLETE package of being unselfish, which includes both contract and gameplay.

[barbacoataco]

If Parker has been so selfish all these years, why are the Spurs known as the team with the best ball movement and sharing, with him as the PG and starting point of the offense. I just don't get these constant attacks on a Spurs great who has been one of the most important players on a perennial winning team.

[Horse]

Danny has been around and never stuck till Pop and SA he knows where his bread is buttered. We've seen it too many times with the gary neals Stephen jacksons and speedy claxtons they get paid but rarely play in any more meaningful games.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If Parker has been so selfish all these years, why are the Spurs known as the team with the best ball movement and sharing, with him as the PG and starting point of the offense. I just don't get these constant attacks on a Spurs great who has been one of the most important players on a perennial winning team.

Dude,

The Spurs only won one le with Parker at a prominent role with this team. And even then Duncan and Manu were in their prime in '07.

Spurs long drought was due to Parker being the primary scorer and ball handler. Its funny that he was basically dissing himself when he made that quote that the Spurs didn't compete for championships anymore as he was the player supposely leading this team at the time.

It wasn't until the Spurs draft Kawhi did they start competing for Championship players. But Parker in all honesty is like those Garnett, Love, Cousins, Mullins, Wilkins, etc. Great players but could never be a leader on a championship team.

Nobody hates him, but dude, I even get frustrated watching him when he goes into ballhog mode. Even Duncan in his prime didn't ballhog that much. If he saw a teammate had a better shot, he passed it.

Last night, was an unselfish Parker and he played an awesome game. I just wish he played like that every game.

[Cry Havoc]

And Pop yanks him off the court for the slightest mistake and puts in Beli

Pisses me off

That won't happen in the real games. Pop is teaching him, not trying to win a meaningless game in March.

[DMC]

Green is staying. Spurs have more than enough room under the Tax to bring everyone back.

Green knows he wouldn't even be in the league if it weren't for Pop. Green turn down 1.5-2mil dollars a year more from Utah and other teams last time he signed with the Spurs. He said so himself. And the reason he gave was because he was loyal to Pop because he wouldn't be in the NBA right now if it weren't for him.

Spurs always get these type of unselfish players. Parker is the only semi-selfish player the Spurs have had on the roster the past 10 years.

Plus Tim and Manu are short timers. Danny and Kawhi will be part of the new big 3. This isn't the 1991 Spurs who never rang. This is a team with 5 banners where Danny has been around for 2 Finals and maybe another prior to next season.

[DAF86]

Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard should be our wings for at least the next 5 to 7 years, tbh. With those two and Splitter you only need a PG that can score some points (easiest player to find these days) and a stretch 4 and you have a playoffs team for years to come.

[SASdynasty!]

Dude,

The Spurs only won one le with Parker at a prominent role with this team. And even then Duncan and Manu were in their prime in '07.

Spurs long drought was due to Parker being the primary scorer and ball handler. Its funny that he was basically dissing himself when he made that quote that the Spurs didn't compete for championships anymore as he was the player supposely leading this team at the time.

It wasn't until the Spurs draft Kawhi did they start competing for Championship players. But Parker in all honesty is like those Garnett, Love, Cousins, Mullins, Wilkins, etc. Great players but could never be a leader on a championship team.

Nobody hates him, but dude, I even get frustrated watching him when he goes into ballhog mode. Even Duncan in his prime didn't ballhog that much. If he saw a teammate had a better shot, he passed it.

Last night, was an unselfish Parker and he played an awesome game. I just wish he played like that every game.

So leading the team in scoring and assists throughout the regular season and playoffs last year doesn't qualify as a "prominent role?" Being the only All-Star and All-NBA player on the team doesn't qualify as a "prominent role?" Leading the Spurs in scoring throughout the Finals last year doesn't qualify as a "prominent role?" What would he have needed to do? Outscore the rest of the team by even more? Out-assist the rest of the team by even more? Score more than 32 points in our only elimination game of the season? What do you define as a "prominent role?"

[MateoNeygro]

If D'Antoni goes to Denver and installs the SSOL there, then that would be an even better fit for Danny. He gets to run around in transition all day long, and that offense can generate open threes as much as any offense can.

More importantly, it's a myth that the Spurs' role-players disappear other places. Sure, their fringe players disappear. But Danny is much closer to Hill and Jack than he is to Neal and Blair. The two former guys had/have had plenty of success away from the team. , actually, both of the two latter guys have played well outside of the Spurs, but they have gone to situations where they were buried on the depth chart. Danny with a ring or two and a Finals record isn't going to go that way.

Good point. Did they win Championships?

[AFBlue]

Why did this devolve into (yet another) Parker thread? Dude performs in the role he's asked, and does so at a near-elite level for all but half a season in the last decade, and he gets ripped constantly. Ridiculous.

As for Green, I think he becomes a casualty of the numbers game. As effective as he is in this system, he's not a post player, and that's what the Spurs need to focus their energy on acquiring with Tim in his age-39 season. Doesn't help that he enters free agency with Kawhi, who is more important and eminently more retainable. Hope I'm wrong, but I think he's gone after this year.

[Chinook]

Good point. Did they win Championships?

No. Has nothing to do with anything.

[K...]

That is why I said Semi-Selfish. Parker is like a Manic-Depressive with his Selfishness, where it comes in waves. Sometimes he is a totally unselfish player and plays Spurs basketball at its finest. .

Hmm, maybe he gets selfish by design? Like running offense so that defenses don't focus on shooters and respect Tony's threat to drive for a layup?

There maybe points were Parker makes mistakes, but all point guards do. Imagine being a fan of Chris Paul. The point is that Parker is a clear net positive when he can play good hero ball. Yes the motion offense is the better offense, but the best offense is the multi dimensional offense.

What you call selfishness is also called toughness.

[K...]

Dude,

Spurs long drought was due to Parker being the primary scorer and ball handler.

L

Another historically bad take. So Parker caused the FO to get Jefferson and forced deJuan Blair to start? Parker caused Duncan's knee to fail? Parker held back splitter?

Prime Parker just happens to coincide with a slide in team talent. If Parker had healthy Duncan, splitter, kawhi, green, etc, he's absolutely win.

So many Parker haters project the dumbest that just ain't there.

[MateoNeygro]

No. Has nothing to do with anything.

So winning Championships has nothing to do with anything?

[MateoNeygro]

Riiight. Good talk.

[K...]

Oh, this is a Danny green thread?

Ok, green owes us nothing folks. We crafted him into an elite roll player, but he got us 5. Debt paid.

The spurs may not help him become the player he thinks he can be. He really can't expand his role here much. If he wants to go elsewhere I have no ill feelings. People need to remember, when we rebuild we may have a totally different team in two or three years. It would not make sense to sign here if it's a rebuild.

Now, if green resigns, he'll be very tradable. Elite teams may not have cap room for him but a rebuilding spurs team would gladly take a first round pick and promising asset for green. He'll be worth it.

[K...]

I want to echo Chinook, Neal and Blair didn't fail. Neal got double the money the spurs would pay him and has been a bench scorer. That's what the spurs would offer him. Blair has bad knees.

Think about it. Mahinimi? Still in the league, George hill? Starting guard.

There are teams that could really maximize his value and teams with quality two guards already. But it's silly to think three point shooting and perimeter defense are spurs team exclusives. That's basketball.

I'd say 60% chance green leaves. Slightly less if we don't repeat. And as always, everything starts with Duncan and gino

[MateoNeygro]

I want to echo Chinook, Neal and Blair didn't fail. Neal got double the money the spurs would pay him and has been a bench scorer. That's what the spurs would offer him. Blair has bad knees.

Think about it. Mahinimi? Still in the league, George hill? Starting guard.

There are teams that could really maximize his value and teams with quality two guards already. But it's silly to think three point shooting and perimeter defense are spurs team exclusives. That's basketball.

I'd say 60% chance green leaves. Slightly less if we don't repeat. And as always, everything starts with Duncan and gino

I said the points he made were good ones. They don't necessarily fail. My point was that I feel like Danny's best basketball chances are here in SA. Not to mention the chance to be on a Championship caliber team, which I suspect is a premium for most players in the league. Not all but most. I wonder if any players do it solely for the money. Like they truly treat it as a job and don't care necessarily about winning.

[szkorhetz]

Give this man credit. Clutch as , probably the best on ball defender in the whole NBA and he is just a so freaking makes the Big Three better. I love both him and KL, but right, Green is the MVP of this team.