Danny Green, stud.

[Cry Havoc]

Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard should be our wings for at least the next 5 to 7 years, tbh. With those two and Splitter you only need a PG that can score some points (easiest player to find these days) and a stretch 4 and you have a playoffs team for years to come.

Not just a playoff team, but a serious contender if we can just land a couple of consistently decent bigs. Kawhi has shown signs of continuing to mature into one of the league's top players, he influences the court like NO other player who is a non-big on the defensive end of things. I can't remember the last time I've seen such consistent playmaking on defense from a wing. Even Bowen, for all his defensive prowess, mostly just locked his own man down, he didn't completely warp the other team's offense like Kawhi does. The dude is everywhere. I think his signature play on D has to be his ability to steal the ball while he's actively being picked. He just reaches around the pick and bam, the play is going the other way down the court.

[timtonymanu]

DG being on any other contender would be terrifying.

Leonard and Green make the best perimeter defensive duo in the league. Hopefully both of them will be back.

[Chinook]

So winning Championships has nothing to do with anything?

You're changing the question. Green can win les on plenty of other teams, and he can play his role on other teams. You said he wouldn't be successful in other situations as if the post-Duncan Spurs are the only contenders out there or the only team that can give him open looks.

The truth is, his talents would fit a SSOL just as much as they fit the Spurs-style offense. He'd put up great numbers and be a valuable member of that team. Why is that a worse fate than being on a potentially mediocre Kawhi-and-nothing-else Spurs?

[peacemaker885]

Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard should be our wings for at least the next 5 to 7 years, tbh. With those two and Splitter you only need a PG that can score some points (easiest player to find these days) and a stretch 4 and you have a playoffs team for years to come.

DLeague MVP KA?

[DAF86]

Not just a playoff team, but a serious contender if we can just land a couple of consistently decent bigs. Kawhi has shown signs of continuing to mature into one of the league's top players, he influences the court like NO other player who is a non-big on the defensive end of things. I can't remember the last time I've seen such consistent playmaking on defense from a wing. Even Bowen, for all his defensive prowess, mostly just locked his own man down, he didn't completely warp the other team's offense like Kawhi does. The dude is everywhere. I think his signature play on D has to be his ability to steal the ball while he's actively being picked. He just reaches around the pick and bam, the play is going the other way down the court.

To be a contender I think the Spurs would probably need one more star.

[AFBlue]

Give this man credit. Clutch as , probably the best on ball defender in the whole NBA and he is just a so freaking makes the Big Three better. I love both him and KL, but right, Green is the MVP of this team.

Not even the best on-the-ball defender on the team tbqh. He's really good, but unfortunately for him he'll be compared to Kawhi in all facets.

[313]

That is why I said Semi-Selfish. Parker is like a Manic-Depressive with his Selfishness, where it comes in waves. Sometimes he is a totally unselfish player and plays Spurs basketball at its finest. Then the next day he will be both, selfish Tony but still shows elements of Spurs Basketball. Then the next day he becomes full fledged selfish Parker. Skip Bayless says it best where he just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and doesn't pass the ball to save his life.

Parker is an enigma in that way. But no, he is nothing like say Kobe who is entirely selfish. Even Horry noted that the only player on the Spur team that had elements of selfishness was Parker. He was his actual teammate and in the locker room with him, so yeah, I would think he would know.

He didn't say selfish, he said Parker was the only one who liked the spotlight. Parker goes on the court and does what Pop tells him to do, nothing more nothing less.

To say he's selfish when he took discounts his whole career just like the rest of the big three is just asinine.

[MateoNeygro]

You're changing the question. Green can win les on plenty of other teams, and he can play his role on other teams. You said he wouldn't be successful in other situations as if the post-Duncan Spurs are the only contenders out there or the only team that can give him open looks.

The truth is, his talents would fit a SSOL just as much as they fit the Spurs-style offense. He'd put up great numbers and be a valuable member of that team. Why is that a worse fate than being on a potentially mediocre Kawhi-and-nothing-else Spurs?

Actually you are putting words in my mouth. Nowhere in this thread did I say he wouldn't win a Championship elsewhere. Would he? Doubtful. I didn't say he wouldn't be succesful I said he'd go the way of Neal- to which you countered (and I agreed with) Players have still had productive years elsewhere. My point was that I don't think he would be AS succesful as he is here. As it stands right now I think the Spurs are the team for him. D'Antoni is nowhere near the motivator or mentor that Pop is. Danny is where he's at because of Pop and the Spurs. If he leaves I'll be sure to bump this when he's floundering in Denver.

[MateoNeygro]

You're changing the question. Green can win les on plenty of other teams, and he can play his role on other teams. You said he wouldn't be successful in other situations as if the post-Duncan Spurs are the only contenders out there or the only team that can give him open looks.

The truth is, his talents would fit a SSOL just as much as they fit the Spurs-style offense. He'd put up great numbers and be a valuable member of that team. Why is that a worse fate than being on a potentially mediocre Kawhi-and-nothing-else Spurs?

Also what Championship caliber team would he be the starting 2 guard?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He didn't say selfish, he said Parker was the only one who liked the spotlight. Parker goes on the court and does what Pop tells him to do, nothing more nothing less.

To say he's selfish when he took discounts his whole career just like the rest of the big three is just asinine.

Really, is that why Pop has continually benched him in the Finals and last year in Game 6 at OKC because he was doing exactly what he told him to do. No, Parker is probably the only guy on the team that be more destructive.

Don't equate points to contributing to wins, especially when those points come of you holding on to the ball and forcing shots to pad stats. Benard King (not saying Parker is King) was a great scorer. Led the league twice in scoring. But he was a ball hog full-time and his teammates despised him. That is why I always say Melo is the Knicks new King, just a stat padder.

I like Parker, he has been a great player for the Spurs. But he is not nearly as bad as Westbrook, but he can go into that self destruct ball hogging mode and lose the Spurs games. Just like Manu can go into turnover mode and lose the Spurs games. That is why I appreciate Duncan so much. He has barely any weaknesses and rarely, in a blue moon, ever cost the Spurs a game because of his play.

I just call like I see it.

[CGD]

I see the Kyle Korver deal as a good starting point for Danny's next contract (~6M/yr). Similar systems, and while Korver is probably the better offensive player, Danny has the edge on D. Danny stays in SA unless someone is paying him over 9M/yr.

[100%duncan]

Also what Championship caliber team would he be the starting 2 guard?

OKC, Cleveland, Memphis come to mind

[100%duncan]

Also what Championship caliber team would he be the starting 2 guard?

OKC, Cleveland, Memphis come to mind

[snickles]

Not to mention the chance to be on a Championship caliber team, which I suspect is a premium for most players in the league. Not all but most. I wonder if any players do it solely for the money. Like they truly treat it as a job and don't care necessarily about winning.

it seems to me that most players value money over winning. how many times has a player given lip service to "wanting to win", but then takes more money to go to/stay with a non-contender?

, look at the spurs over the last decade. even when we had cap space for 2 max players, the year after a championship, with the best player in the league at the time.......noone.

players rarely choose winning over money until later in their career. off the top of my head, I can't think of a single in-their-prime player who has chosen rings over contract.

[MateoNeygro]

it seems to me that most players value money over winning. how many times has a player given lip service to "wanting to win", but then takes more money to go to/stay with a non-contender?

, look at the spurs over the last decade. even when we had cap space for 2 max players, the year after a championship, with the best player in the league at the time.......noone.

players rarely choose winning over money until later in their career. off the top of my head, I can't think of a single in-their-prime player who has chosen rings over contract.

Good point.

[MateoNeygro]

OKC, Cleveland, Memphis come to mind

Lol well damn. Well played.

[peacemaker885]

Givrn his connection to LBJ, Cavs probably have the biggest pull.

[taps]

it comes in waves.

So does the Parker-hate.

[313]

Really, is that why Pop has continually benched him in the Finals and last year in Game 6 at OKC because he was doing exactly what he told him to do. No, Parker is probably the only guy on the team that be more destructive.

Don't equate points to contributing to wins, especially when those points come of you holding on to the ball and forcing shots to pad stats. Benard King (not saying Parker is King) was a great scorer. Led the league twice in scoring. But he was a ball hog full-time and his teammates despised him. That is why I always say Melo is the Knicks new King, just a stat padder.

I like Parker, he has been a great player for the Spurs. But he is not nearly as bad as Westbrook, but he can go into that self destruct ball hogging mode and lose the Spurs games. Just like Manu can go into turnover mode and lose the Spurs games. That is why I appreciate Duncan so much. He has barely any weaknesses and rarely, in a blue moon, ever cost the Spurs a game because of his play.

I just call like I see it.

He got benched because he was playing poorly, not because he was straying from the system

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He got benched because he was playing poorly, not because he was straying from the system

He got benched because he was ball hogging. I suggest you watch OKC game 6 again. And watch the Detroit series where Parker was determine to show up Billups/Hunter who were owning his ass in that series.

Same with Kidd in Game 6 of the Nets finals. Kidd was shutting down his ass and Parker was forcing the issue. Pop pulled the plug and benched him.