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    Manny was able to go full rounds with the same stamina because he was on steroids...let's not forget...no one is saying that to disparage the guy but he was on roids it's a fact....Shane Mosley was the only one to admit he took roids.....Manny lasting like he did and going thorugh fighters at his size was steroids...so Floyd was wise to avoid him until he came clean and agreed to the Olympic style testing instead of lying about being afraid of needles....


    never the less I think it will be a good fight
    Why is it steroids that a fighter can throw for 10 or 11 rounds? That's not unheard of, unless you think all the greats were doping (plausible). But come on kool, Manny was throwing HARD for 12 rounds when he was 120 pounds, you want to tell me he was on roids then too?

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    I have 10k set aside for Floyd to whoop Manny's ass. You can get some if you believe that bull you're saying.
    Does the Naruto forum know you're misappropriating their donation money?

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    Luva in that Henry Cooper fight after he knocked Ali down....Ali got up and gave him the worst beating I've ever seen him give someone...

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    Why is it steroids that a fighter can throw for 10 or 11 rounds? That's not unheard of, unless you think all the greats were doping (plausible). But come on kool, Manny was throwing HARD for 12 rounds when he was 120 pounds, you want to tell me he was on roids then too?
    He was taking shots he wasn't supposed to take and staying up...is all I'm saying.....and then when Floyd said to Olympic style drug test....he flat out refused on the condition of he afraid of needles then he said it was religion and supers ion as to why...that told me all I needed to know..he was doping..and one thing about Roger and Mayweather Sr....they've been around the game for over 50 yrs they've seen it all...they knew as did most boxing insiders that manny was doping...it was pretty simple...I will give you the stamina argument because you can be conditioned for that....but you're not conditioned to take shots to the chin and not respond to those....I know you're a fan of his but stop denying the obvious....just like I can say Floyd is a disrespectful and arrogant asshole and mean it...you should be able to admit your boy was roiding.....


    pretty simple...

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    Luva in that Henry Cooper fight after he knocked Ali down....Ali got up and gave him the worst beating I've ever seen him give someone...
    Ali stopped him. My only knock on Ali was he would clown too much and underestimate his opponent which caused him to lose to lesser fighters. Frazier should have never beaten Ali. Spinks only had 7 professional fights when he beat Ali.

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    Does the Naruto forum know you're misappropriating their donation money?
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    wait, floyd who doesn't smoke, drink or use drugs, is doing ped's now??? even though he insisted on strict blood testing, floyd is now using ped's??? manny fans are scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses now. y'all lowkey admitting manny was/is using steroids

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    He was taking shots he wasn't supposed to take and staying up...is all I'm saying.....and then when Floyd said to Olympic style drug test....he flat out refused on the condition of he afraid of needles then he said it was religion and supers ion as to why...that told me all I needed to know..he was doping..and one thing about Roger and Mayweather Sr....they've been around the game for over 50 yrs they've seen it all...they knew as did most boxing insiders that manny was doping...it was pretty simple...I will give you the stamina argument because you can be conditioned for that....but you're not conditioned to take shots to the chin and not respond to those....I know you're a fan of his but stop denying the obvious....just like I can say Floyd is a disrespectful and arrogant asshole and mean it...you should be able to admit your boy was roiding.....


    pretty simple...
    Ah, so when Floyd takes a shot he's got an iron chin, when Manny does it, he's doping.

    Speculation and happenstance, that's all you have. Nothing even remotely concrete.

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    Why is it steroids that a fighter can throw for 10 or 11 rounds? That's not unheard of, unless you think all the greats were doping (plausible). But come on kool, Manny was throwing HARD for 12 rounds when he was 120 pounds, you want to tell me he was on roids then too?

    Here is your visual proof..and for all the bull vids I've posted over the years this is the realsest..it do ents the cheating coming out of Arum's camp....literally for decades


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    Ah, so when Floyd takes a shot he's got an iron chin, when Manny does it, he's doping.

    Speculation and happenstance, that's all you have. Nothing even remotely concrete.





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    Buddy are you for real, posting a picture of a video of a Mayweather employee and you think it's proof.

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    Notice the bias of the reporter who didn't want to question him further or call him out for his BS lies....sad...that same biased interviewer had a contentious interview with FLoyd and didn't hold back...yet he let's Manny walk off with not an ounce of challenge to his credibility...lol

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    Buddy are you for real, posting a picture of a video of a Mayweather employee and you think it's proof.

    Yes I am serious. The man you are calling Floyd's employee was Manny's long time strength and conditioning coach. In fact... he was the accused of giving Manny the roids. You're going to have to do your homework on this boxing . This is my sport.


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    Luva here is that same er interviewing Floyd...look at the stark contrast in his approach with Floyd vs. his soft ball interview with Manny and his PED use...




    Look at this soft ball interview:


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    Luva here is that same er interviewing Floyd...look at the stark contrast in his approach with Floyd vs. his soft ball interview with Manny and his PED use...




    Look at this soft ball interview:



    Also... Floyd is on record of admitting that he had a signed 50/50 contract agreement to fight Manny 6 years ago. They had agreed on everything and at the last minute Mosley told Floyd to force Manny to take the drug test. A clean fighter would have never walked away from the biggest money making fight of all time. Moreso, his promoter, Arum would have never allowed him to do so if he thought Manny was clean. Why would Mosley tell Floyd to drug test Manny? Because Mosley knew Manny was getting his drugs from the same person he got his from, and since he was caught cheating and lost to Manny he wanted Manny to get caught too. It was a hater move by Mosley.


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    Also... Floyd is on record of admitting that he had a signed 50/50 contract agreement to fight Manny 6 years ago. They had agreed on everything and at the last minute Mosley told Floyd to force Manny to take the drug test. A clean fighter would have never walked away from the biggest money making fight of all time. Moreso, his promoter, Arum would have never allowed him to do so if he thought Manny was clean. Why would Mosley tell Floyd to drug test Manny? Because Mosley knew Manny was getting his drugs from the same person he got his from, and since he was caught cheating and lost to Manny he wanted Manny to get caught too. It was a hater move by Mosley.


    yep but all these Manny fan bois who are emotional like little es dont even understand this side of the business....it's all about what they see on TV.... they have no idea of the going in in Arum's camp....and has been going on for decades....check out that vid on visual cheating I posted....that's some real ass

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    Also... Floyd is on record of admitting that he had a signed 50/50 contract agreement to fight Manny 6 years ago. They had agreed on everything and at the last minute Mosley told Floyd to force Manny to take the drug test. Why would Mosley tell Floyd to drug test Manny? Because Mosley knew Manny was getting his drugs from the same person he got his from, and since he was caught cheating and lost to Manny he wanted Manny to get caught too. It was a hater move by Mosley.
    Yep

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    And so the rise of robdiaz from -tier poster to serious contributor continues. Good to see in this age of fallen greats (HH, Big Dog, Timvp).
    Thanks Shout out to ElNono, he da real MVP.

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    How is this racial? He is Filipino.
    OP just race baiting like the monkey that he is

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    OP just race baiting like the monkey that he is
    Hey midnight pulp...when did you become so whiney....lol

    In fact he did say it....

    http://au.ibtimes.com/boxing-news-fl...going-past-six

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    For all the roid/PED talk, Floyd fans gotta realize this though

    It's all I found.

    Dude not only hired Pac's previous strength and conditioning coach (Ariza) during his prime years, he also brought in Heredia who was capable of cheating an olympic style testing in his camp for this fight. So the early whispers of Floyd walking Manny down is true, amazing what a huge amount of steroids can do to a man's confidence



    Article in 2013

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-espn-magazine

    Heredia is an expert at making undetectable steroids and cheating the USADA tests which he has done plenty of times in the past. No matter how many times the 39-year-old Heredia insists he's working clean these days, he can't escape the dark clouds. MLB and NFL teams won't go near him. His name is toxic in track and field, where Usain Bolt has sprinted away from rumors that he worked with Heredia at the 2009 world championships.

    Over the next five years, Heredia became perhaps the most prolific drug dealer in track and field, a steroids savant who supplied hard-to-detect PEDs to Stewart and a dozen star athletes. He was also an expert in the contours of high-level cheating, endlessly studying the World Anti-Doping Agency's code so he could crack it. His tentacles reached so deeply into the sport that his client list grew to include Trevor Graham, a track coach with a roster of Olympic stars that included Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery and Jerome Young. Young, who was later stripped of his gold medal, was secretly using a stipend from USA Track & Field to pay for Heredia's drugs.

    But Heredia couldn't avoid detection by law enforcement forever. In 2002 a federal investigation into the infamous BALCO lab turned up evidence that Heredia was dealing drugs to those track icons. That year, the government's lead agent, Jeff Novitzky, tracked Heredia to a Laredo hotel and confronted him with wiretaps on which he could be heard boasting about his doping operation. Novitzky gave Heredia a life-altering choice: Do the right thing or do time.




    Fraud PEDweather
    desperate

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    Yes I am serious. The man you are calling Floyd's employee was Manny's long time strength and conditioning coach. In fact... he was the accused of giving Manny the roids. You're going to have to do your homework on this boxing . This is my sport.

    I thought your sport was posing as a black man on internet forums. My mistake.

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    For all the roid/PED talk, Floyd fans gotta realize this though
    I'll tell you this though, if Floyd does in fact come out swinging, trading blows with Manny, then I'll have to believe he juiced up for this fight. However, if Floyd wins unanimously by decision like he always does then Pac fans has no other excuses and should accept the universal fact that Floyd is, and will always be the better boxer than Pacquiao.

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    ^ nope...they have Olympic style testing.....no excuses

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    ^ nope...they have Olympic style testing.....no excuses
    Angel Heredia is capable of beating Olympic Style testing as the article above states, that's why his name in big in the sports science.

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