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    Cam wouldn't have thrown that pick

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    Cam wouldn't have thrown that pick
    Cam Newton is what vs Seattle in the RW era?

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    Cam Newton vs Russell Wilson

    Newton has lost 4 in a row to RW.

    RW has won far more regular season games and is far more successful in the playoffs.

    Cam's best comp% for a season...61.7, RW's 64.1
    Most td's for Cam in a seasn...24, RW 26 twice!
    Most INT's in a season for Cam...17, RW 10.
    Cam's best passer rating...88.8, RW 101.2
    Cam's beat QBR rating...56.8, RW 71.45

    As we can see not even close.

    Anyone have another QB ya want to compare?

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    Hey Avante ....

    Who are the Bucs going to pick with the 1st pick? Mariota or Winston?

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    Hey Avante ....

    Who are the Bucs going to pick with the 1st pick? Mariota or Winston?
    Johnny Manziel ed it up for Winston. Everyone knew who Johnny was and yep, he was who they thought he was, well this is no different. Winston is not mature enought to lead a pro football (grown men) team right now and it's real obvious, we can see it in the way he talks, he's just a big goofy kid.

    Mariota is no and brimstone guy but he does appear intelligent and level headed. And...SAFE!

    The Buc's will take the...SAFE!....Marcus Mariota.

    You give Mariota $$$$$$$$$ and chances are it won't overwelm him. You give a guy who is jumping up on tables and acting like a deranged monkey big $$$$$$$$$$$$ and there has gotta be some concern.

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    Hard to imagine Bo Jackson running a 4.16 or was it 4.19? None of these guys today even in the same time zone (get it, haha!!!)

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    Speaking of fast running backs.

    All Time NFL RB's 100m

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    1.Travis Williams 9.3 ASU/Packers
    2.O.J.Simpson 9.4 USC/Bills
    3.Michael Bennett 10.18 Wis/Vikes
    4.Curtis ey 10.10 Tex A&M/Colts
    5.Herschel Walker 10.23 Ga/pick one
    6.Joe Delaney 9.4 NWLa/Chiefs
    7.Bo Jackson 9.5 Auburn/Raiders
    8.Jamaal Charles 10.18 Texas/Chiefs

    Trindon Holliday is a RB and his 10.00 would make him the fastest ever but he's done so little, nay!!!!!!!!

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    Winston will go #1 and Mariota will fall mid to late 1st Round

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    Winston will go #1 and Mariota will fall mid to late 1st Round

    I don't argue/debate the draft, learned a long time ago it's funky.

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    With Mariota running a sold 4.52 that got me thinking about the fastest QB's.

    The fastest QB ever was Bears receiver Curtis Conway, he was a Cali state 100m champ and a 10.2 cat while at USC. A high school QB.

    As far as pro football QB's go...

    Michael Vick Falcons
    RGIII Redskins
    Marlon "The Magician" Briscoe Broncos
    Colin Kaepernick Niners
    Steve Young Niners
    Russell Wilson Seahawks
    Randall Cunnigham Eagles
    Bobby Douglas Bears
    Vince Young ans
    Kordell Stewart Steelers
    Ryan Tannehill Dolphins

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    The fastest athlete to ever touch a football.


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    Winston will go #1 and Mariota will fall mid to late 1st Round
    Unfortunately, I think you're right.

    I'm going to have to deal with that crab-leg stealing for years....


    BTW...can't see Mariota falling past the Jets.

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    At least Winston can read a defense and play from the pocket in a pro-style offense. Mariota is just a gimmick.

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    The biggest difference between the two other than speed/maturity is how Mariota protects the ball compared to Winston. In his three seasons at Oregon he only had 10 INT's while Winston had 28INT's in just two seasons, this is a biggie.

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    Never seen a bigger waste of time than the combine. Football is not the decathlon. All that's needed is game film of actual football. The standing long jump, hahaha!!!!!!!!! Even the 40 is a load of bull , just ask Jerry Rice. Olympic sprinter Sam Graddy a silver medalist in the 100m, would blow any of his fellow wide receivers away in any race, he wasn't .

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    Now that it's obvious I win $$$$ beating the NFL I won't be handing out free $$$$ next season.

    But I will give you rookies a few pointers....

    Home/Road...is huge, as is...heading into a bye/coming off a bye. You want to find (it's all out there) how these teams perform in whatever role they are playing that week.

    Example

    Niners are 10-2 at home when laying 3 or less, their opponents the Rams a weak 2-10 as a road dog getting less than a TD. That's a 20-4 trend favoring the Niners. Now ya want to search out another 3-5 plays with numbers that strong. What are the odds (and it's all about odds) of all those strong plays failing on the same weekend?
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    Ya look for "spots' that favor a team over another, from an ATS perspective. Yep, homework.

    If the coach/QB combo is intact ya go with ATS history, anyone playing..."that was in 2011 what does it have to do with...." doesn't understand ATS betting.

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    While he does get his props Marshawn Lynch isn't the first power runner.

    He's just the best of the brusiers right now.

    Marion Motley was the original "BEAST" he played for the Browns back in the days of Otto Graham. A 240 pounder at a time when d linemen were 260 and backers 220. A bull!

    The first great AFL rusher was Cookie Gilchrist a 250 pounder with an at ude. First AFLer to rush for a 1000 yards in a season.

    Earl Campbell was the fastest of the big backs. He packed a wallop, and ran angry,

    While John Riggins was a state 100 champ at 9.8, by the time he arrived with the Skins he was over 240 pounds not the 205 he was in HS. So some of that zip was gone but not the power. You can't talk Riggins and not talk Larry Csonka and Mike Alstott. All three ran over defenses.

    There will always be power backs in the NFL, just too many big bad cats playing football.

    What's unique about Lynch is he's really not all that big, he's only a 215 pounder. I think O.J.was about that.

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    2nd and goal got. Struggle ing sucks

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    2nd and goal got. Struggle ing sucks
    What are you ing 13? Dude, ya look at the body of work, not "a play, ok stupid?

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    Now that Lynch isn't going anywhere and RW FINALLY has an elite receiver who beats the Seahawks in the NFC?

    The Cowboys have lost Murray, the Cards have an old QB, can the Eagles make it work in season one with all the new pieces?

    Then there's the Packers.

    And a team that could surprise, who?

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    Avante interviewing CN.

    Avante...thought you'd be bigger.
    CN... got!
    Avante...so what about your Chargers in 2015?
    CN..bunch of gots!
    Avante...I see, so.....why don't you like Russell Wilson?
    CN...he's a got!
    Avante...right, so...ah...will the Cowboys miss Murray?
    CN...that big got line and that got Romo will be ok.
    Avante...so what about Jameis Winston, will he make it?
    CN... that got!
    Avante...hey, thanks for your time CN.
    CN..see ya got.

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    When RW signs the only fully guaranteed contract in history, yep, another first.

    How many will that make, a dozen?

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    And a team that could surprise, who?
    the Lions

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    I was thinking Rams.

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    I wonder if anyone will contact Tyreek Hill?

    Smith and Willis retiring will make the biggest dent, with Suh at Miami making the biggest impact.
    Last edited by Avante; 03-15-2015 at 11:00 PM.

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