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He's 23.
Kawhi is the best player on the spurs this year. Although he does not have the offensive numbers for the casual fan to "eye test" him as a franchise player, he is a top 10 player in the league per RPM, due to his being an elite defensive player and a good offensive player.
Even so, I don't think he belongs in the discussion of all-time greats, not by a long shot.
To be in the all-time discussion, he needs to be the top player (or so) in the league at least for a few years.
He simply does not have enough success to be in the discussion by consideration of individual accomplishments (All-stars, league MVP, stats), or team success (# championships as clearly best player, even if you count last year).
I mean, he already has an FMVP, and he is young so who knows where he goes in the future. IMO, he is clearly a top 10 player and the best player on the spurs, but all-time great? Today? No way. We have Tim, Kobe, and Shaq as recent all-time greats from the 2000's, and Kawhi is not in the same statosphere as those guys in terms of accomplishments to date.
So, what can we take from this:
Deluded?
Kidding?
Irrational?
I really want to understand how someone could say this and be serious. Lets level set. Who actually agrees with nut-hugger? I want to see people defend that and pass the laugh test.
I am posting this because I can't take someone seriously if they are going to say things like this. I am trying to see if there is anything redeeming about the content of the poster's posts. Anything other than comedy value as reason to not block at this point.
Last edited by spursfaninla; 03-14-2015 at 12:57 PM.
He's 23.
OP is a got.
I said he was going to be one of the best players in the league when he was averaging 7PPG.
Me saying Leonard is an all time great is a prediction....
Actually when he wins his 2nd FMVP..He will be considered an ALL time great. Top 30.
You won't be able to name me more than 10 players who have won b2b FMVP.
and I am telling you now Leonard will win his 2nd FMVP just like when I told you guys he is going to be a star in this league when you guys were still doubting the kid in his rookie year.
Mania is a ot tbH
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Very mature with elementary school name calling.
As for the rest, back peddle all you want you used the present tens, is all time Great.
Just because he kawhi exceeded my expectations does not mean I doubted him. I'm really glad he has become a force in the league and I hope he stays a spur for life. I think he is close enough to a franchise player to build around.
Last edited by spursfaninla; 03-14-2015 at 01:28 PM.
Leonard is a franchise player..thinking otherwise is stupid and mainstream.
He's 23. I'll wait a few years before rating him.
Doesn't matter if he is 23 or 33..
He is already a great player...
Since you back-pedaled off of "all time great," my work is done.
you'd have to be a re to assume Leonard as an All time great the age of 23...
But Leonard will be An all time great by the end of the season with his 2nd FMVP..Book it.
ClipperNation is an All-First Team got
No, op is right. Best of all time. Hands down
He just needs to get more touches and work on his offense to be considered that. Consider this: people are saying Parker's having a terrible season and yet Kawhi is averaging just 0.8 PPG more and on worse shooting this year.
Last edited by SASdynasty!; 03-14-2015 at 08:50 PM.
wow way too soon wtf
Not even a top 5 Spur. Srs.
Basically this....
He is the future of the Spurs organization and one of the best defensive players in the NBA.
Oh yeah.
Its cool to be a gadfly. Look it up.
If you think KL is going to be an alltime great then post exactly that Ya damn banana nut cake.
All-time great ?
Isn't it TOO EARLY for anybody to talk about Kawhi being in that category???
He has not lead the team to greatness by himself yet..that is, without the legendary all-time winning trio.
He has to win first at least a regular MVP, a DPOY, or a lead in the regular season scoring voted to the All-Star games or mayve win an ASG MVP ...to get the attention.
Too early to tell..
I doubt if Michael Jordan consider himself as great when he was just starting in rhe NBA.
Let's just get back to earth. Back to reality.
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You drive a hard bargain asking for a reality check.All-time great ?
Isn't it TOO EARLY for anybody to talk about Kawhi being in that category???
He has not lead the team to greatness by himself yet..that is, without the legendary all-time winning trio.
Let's just get back to earth. Back to reality.
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I'll wait till I know he's a 'Spur for life'
Better thread wouldve been where does he rank as an all time Spur great.
top 4 behind Manu, David and Tim.
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