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    You can leave these ...GOD...threads for six months, then when back, it's as if ya never left.
    yeah, never changes, people obsessing over something they claim doesn't exist.

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    You can leave these ...GOD...threads for six months, then when back, it's as if ya never left.
    You are still just as stupid as ever, I'll grant you that.

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    They would scream, but I wouldn't. I know myself too well to feel threatened by ideas that are perceived as wrong.

    As far as the prayer being "forced" why not fire the staff instead of making new laws? Why the need to trample the rights of the believers? It makes no sense. It was like I said before. Pissed off nerds.
    Why force any religion on people in schools?

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    As far as the prayer being "forced" why not fire the staff instead of making new laws? Why the need to trample the rights of the believers? It makes no sense. It was like I said before. Pissed off nerds.
    staff? You haven't read the case.

    The believers have the right to pray on their own but it makes no sense to allow them to push their beliefs on the non-believers with a state authorized prayer declaring God as the authority.

    Thus the Supreme Court ruling.

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    yeah, never changes, people obsessing over something they claim doesn't exist.
    I will say this, those I know who do believe in some God are happier than those I know who don't.

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    ISIS folks seem happy too

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    Lists!

    Anecdotes!

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    ISIS folks seem happy too
    Who do I know in ISIS, yep, nobody!

    Why are churches full on Sundays?

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    Who do I know in ISIS, yep, nobody!

    Why are churches full on Sundays?
    Are you in church every Sunday?

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    why are biology labs full every day?

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    why are biology labs full every day?
    Why does our money say....In God We Trust? Why is it....one nation under God? What is it...I swear to God? How about....so help me God?

    Why are there far far FAR more Chritians than biologists?

    Why soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much of this out there?


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    so are you saying Christianity is right? because you're "god" references are all specifically christian. and yet you've previously denounced christianity.

    if your going to say "why are there so many christians, why are churches full" and then say the stories in the bible are bull , you're contradicting yourself

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    so are you saying Christianity is right? because you're "god" references are all specifically christian. and yet you've previously denounced christianity.

    if your going to say "why are there so many christians, why are churches full" and then say the stories in the bible are bull , you're contradicting yourself
    Why ignore what I asked? Why so many....In God We Trust...well?


    I like you and everyone else haven't a clue what's really going, all I know is those who do believe in their God beat the out of those without one in my experiences. It's far better to have something than...."oh yeah well prove it:"...haha!!!!!!!! proving it, if it makes you feel better about things (and it does) go for it.

    So many lives have been changed for the better because someone found their God, are you saying you don;t know this? Sure ya do.

    I don't buy the Bible or the Christian God but so what? I;m not going to act like a little jerk over it..."well prove it then"....come on man how ing lame is that? If you think life is better without something you're ing stupid, and wrong, ok? I do believe in a superior something I just don't know what it is.

    Dude, nobody wants little s like you going around.."can ya prove it huh huh huh?"....ok? My granny would have...."I can't my child, but I don't need to now run along" as she pats your little head.
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    Why ignore what I asked? Why so many....In God We Trust...well?


    I like you and everyone else haven't a clue what's really going, all I know is those who do believe in their God beat the out of those without one in my experiences. It's far better to have something than...."oh yeah well prove it:"...haha!!!!!!!! proving it, if it makes you feel better about things (and it does) go for it.

    So many lives have been changed for the better because someone found their God, are you saying you don;t know this? Sure ya do.

    I don't buy the Bible or the Christian God but so what? I;m not going to act like a little jerk over it..."well prove it then"....come on man how ing lame is that? If you think life is better without something you're ing stupid, and wrong, ok? I do believe in a superior something I just don't know what it is.

    Dude, nobody wants little s like you going around.."can ya prove it huh huh huh?"....ok? My granny would have...."I can't my child, but I don't need to now run along" as she pats your little head.
    then how can you explain how there are so many christians? and how many people go to church on sundays?

    hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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    I don't buy the Bible or the Christian God but so what? I;m not going to act like a little jerk over it..."well prove it then"....come on man how ing lame is that? If you think life is better without something you're ing stupid, and wrong, ok? I do believe in a superior something I just don't know what it is.

    Dude, nobody wants little s like you going around.."can ya prove it huh huh huh?"....ok? My granny would have...."I can't my child, but I don't need to now run along" as she pats your little head.
    So is that the burden of proof you have for those who believe in the theory of evolution or are you just a stupid, flaming hypocrite?

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    I don't buy the Bible or the Christian God but so what? I;m not going to act like a little jerk over it..."well prove it then"....come on man how ing lame is that? If you think life is better without something you're ing stupid, and wrong, ok?
    But you'll act like a fat ol jerk to someone with an opposing (and more logical) view

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    But you'll act like a fat ol jerk to someone with an opposing (and more logical) view
    There was this movie I watched with Will Smith in it. I think the movie had an excellent message. It was "I, Robot". Logic is not without it's ugly side. Logic has it's good points, but when it comes to what is best for people, it can often come up short.

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    blake is a got. he hates god because his ex wife was a huge .

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    There was this movie I watched with Will Smith in it. I think the movie had an excellent message. It was "I, Robot". Logic is not without it's ugly side. Logic has it's good points, but when it comes to what is best for people, it can often come up short.
    lol i, robot.

    What exactly can be ugly about logic? Give an example.

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    lol i, robot.

    What exactly can be ugly about logic? Give an example.
    Don't you think that someone who bases their entire way of life on logic would already know the answer?

    Here is some help in the form of a question.

    There is an old man and a young boy falling off of a cliff. You have the capability to save only one. Who do you choose and why?

    Mind you that you only have maybe 10 seconds to figure out who before it is too late to save either.

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    Don't you think that someone who bases their entire way of life on logic would already know the answer?

    Here is some help in the form of a question.

    There is an old man and a young boy falling off of a cliff. You have the capability to save only one. Who do you choose and why?

    Mind you that you only have maybe 10 seconds to figure out who before it is too late to save either.
    Is that the only info I'm given? Normally we as a society say "women and children first" so I guess I save the kid on impulse based on that ingrained knowledge i have.

    What do you believe the logical answer is to your question?

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    Is that the only info I'm given? Normally we as a society say "women and children first" so I guess I save the kid.

    What do you believe the logical answer is to your question?
    How is that logical? It seems more like moral instinct than logic.

    Now you should see the problem with logic.

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    How is that logical? It seems more like moral instinct than logic.

    Now you should see the problem with logic.
    I see the logical fallacies in the dilemma you provided.

    Do you live your life free of logic?

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    I know you have been lurking in this thread for a while now after my latest response Blake. You should definitely know the problem with logic. Here is my response to your question.

    If I only thought logically, I wouldn't have enough time to save either. There are just too many unknown variables to determine whether or not my action is truly the most logical choice.

    Logic mainly derives from previous results and data. I don't have enough data to make any sort of decision logically, so I would automatically revert to something more instinctual to make the choice fast enough to save a life. It really is a leap of faith because you don't even know if you yourself will even survive because there isn't enough data. Instinctually, I would save the boy as well. Logically, I would get stuck wondering why they were that close to the cliff in the first place, how high the cliff was, if there was water at the bottom, the importance of both people to the future, and so on and so forth.

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    I see the logical fallacies in the dilemma you provided.

    Do you live your life free of logic?
    No. I use logic. I am actually using logic right now in this whole debate. I am using deductive reasoning based on your post count, numerous responses in this thread, as well as the nature of your posts here to determine what your next response will be. Hence how it culminated in the logic loop question.

    Logic is important for sure, however, it isn't the answer to everything if you expect to get things done though.

    Believers use their faith to get things done even if it doesn't make sense logically in hindsight. How many times have you heard people say, "God, please help me get through this!" It gives them the courage and strength to face whatever that situation would be. They may give credit to God once it is done, but even an atheist who doesn't believe in God should be able to appreciate their strength because it wasn't really God that saw them through it. It was them. So wouldn't it be "logical" to not ridicule those who have walked down that difficult path if it really wasn't God who got them through it?
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