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    Two games make a pattern? Yeah, not the best late-game performances from him but that doesn't overshadow the fact that he's come up big in the biggest stage year after year. That was a performance by the entire team. Both Timmy and Rique missed chippies in the clutch too.
    i know he's come up big, and i've cited that in the OP. and i dont know why you're bringing up Tim and Tony. those guys obviously have flaws in their games, but this thread isn't about them.

    besides, this thread was also about the spurs long term future with kawhi, which will extend beyond tim and tony.
    He played poorly down the stretch, but Duncan was by far the worst player on either team, tbh..that's the bigger concern, he looks worn out, already..
    like i said above, i never claimed other guys are perfect ... but you bringing duncan in while ignoring the crux of the OP just reeks of deflection tbh

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    Kawhi sucked today.

    But so did Duncan and Parker. Green missing an open 3 he usually makes also was terrible.

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    When I said that I was referring to pressure situations. Will Kawhi be able to his his freethrows when it matters in a close game in the 4 quarter. Will he he clutch shots to propell the Spurs to victory. None of that has been proven in the past. He dominated 3 games in the Finals last year that weren't even close.
    Don't argue with a got, man

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    It might be his 4th year in the league but it's the first year where they're involving him in the offense a lot more. They're trying him out in different situations. Some times it works and some times it doesn't. It's a learning process. What they're having him do this season is no where near the same as his first or second year.
    Some people get it.

    I'd rather kawhi lose RS games than come to the playoffs unprepared. ing gots.

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    kawhi is so overrated, it's ridiculous

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    Who do you think was the cause of all that got?
    Again the games were all blowouts. We saw how he choked under pressure in game 6 '13 by bricking the freethrows. Give me time when Kawhi has hit a clutch freethrow or clutch shot to help the Spurs win a game in the playoffs?

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    i know he's come up big, and i've cited that in the OP. and i dont know why you're bringing up Tim and Tony. those guys obviously have flaws in their games, but this thread isn't about them.

    besides, this thread was also about the spurs long term future with kawhi, which will extend beyond tim and tony.

    like i said above, i never claimed other guys are perfect ... but you bringing duncan in while ignoring the crux of the OP just reeks of deflection tbh
    Not really, Kawhi was really bad today, but questioning a Finals MVP's clutchness is extremely stupid, tbh..

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    why is it that when i ask a legitimate question about kawhi, people are bringing duncan and parker into the thread? can't we have a simple discussion about a guy that will probably get a max contract and be the face of the team for a long time... without getting into a waving contest about other players on the team?

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    His jumper to end regulation touched every part of the rim before rattling out, defying all probability. That's not exactly a cause for concern.

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    Not really, Kawhi was really bad today, but questioning a Finals MVP's clutchness is extremely stupid, tbh..
    being a great playoffs/finals performer like leonard isn't really relevant when specifically discussing scoring ability in the closing moments of games though

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    why is it that when i ask a legitimate question about kawhi, people are bringing duncan and parker into the thread? can't we have a simple discussion about a guy that will probably get a max contract and be the face of the team for a long time... without getting into a waving contest about other players on the team?
    Player fans smh.

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    being a great playoffs/finals performer like leonard isn't really relevant when specifically discussing scoring ability in the closing moments of games though
    The Spurs never use a single player to "close games"..Parker and Ginobili will occasionally do it, but it's usually a set play that gets Duncan off the curl, or Green/Belinelli taking a 3..even on the Duncan turnover, Leonard was wide open under the basket, and Green was wide open for 3..

    Do you have any data that supports your claim, btw? Maybe you're correct, but I'd like to look at the numbers..

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    Again the games were all blowouts. We saw how he choked under pressure in game 6 '13 by bricking the freethrows. Give me time when Kawhi has hit a clutch freethrow or clutch shot to help the Spurs win a game in the playoffs?
    He was the best player for the spurs in 2013 and missed 1 freethrow. Not clutch?
    Kawhi and tim was the only reason it went 7 game stupid .

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    The Spurs never use a single player to "close games"..Parker and Ginobili will occasionally do it, but it's usually a set play that gets Duncan off the curl, or Green/Belinelli taking a 3..even on the Duncan turnover, Leonard was wide open under the basket, and Green was wide open for 3..

    Do you have any data that supports your claim, btw? Maybe you're correct, but I'd like to look at the numbers..
    nah, i was just going by observation and posed the question of whether or not it should be a concern. if you don't think its a concern, thats fine. i put up the thread to gather opinions/information. even if we don't necessarily have one "closer" his late game free throw shooting has been spotty. i mean so has Manu's (and Tim missed a big one late today)... but these tend to be chronic things for players. kawhi will be a great spur for a long time, but i've been noticing he's just not the same in late game scenario's (offensively)

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    nah, i was just going by observation and posed the question of whether or not it should be a concern. if you don't think its a concern, thats fine. i put up the thread to gather opinions/information. even if we don't necessarily have one "closer" his late game free throw shooting has been spotty. i mean so has Manu's (and Tim missed a big one late today)... but these tend to be chronic things for players. kawhi will be a great spur for a long time, but i've been noticing he's just not the same in late game scenario's (offensively)
    It might be a concern, but there are far larger concerns with this team to worry about that IMO..

    They had a 13-point lead at the end of the 3rd tonight and blew it..the game wasn't lost at the end, the game was lost when they allowed the worst team in the NBA to cut the deficit..

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    Not really, Kawhi was really bad today, but questioning a Finals MVP's clutchness is extremely stupid, tbh..
    So you've never question the 2007 finals MVP's toughness. Because I guess doing so would be pretty stupid.

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    I want to blame this game on Pop and that ugly ass beard... But Kawhi can't even hit free throws in the clutch, there's enough evidence to see it. Game 6 wasn't a fluke.
    lmao, stfu got. joestradumbass. kawhi making lebron his .

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    i seriously hope op is trolling

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    He's not that type of player. He's not simply a "closer", he's much more versatile than that. He's a steady performer. He does lots of things really well, but I don't think he gets better or worse at the end of games.

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    So you've never question the 2007 finals MVP's toughness. Because I guess doing so would be pretty stupid.
    I don't question Parker's clutchness, he's pretty good in close games, Pop should probably give him the ball more often, tbh..

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    It might be a concern, but there are far larger concerns with this team to worry about that IMO..
    i agree, never claimed this was the biggest concern. Kawhi's improvement since his time in the league is hte main reason why the spurs went from 1-2 round fodder to le contenders. i'm just asking if it is a concern

    They had a 13-point lead at the end of the 3rd tonight and blew it..the game wasn't lost at the end, the game was lost when they allowed the worst team in the NBA to cut the deficit..
    i think overall, today was just them playing down to the compe ion and not taking them seriously, plus some randoms on the knicks having career games.

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    i know he's come up big, and i've cited that in the OP. and i dont know why you're bringing up Tim and Tony. those guys obviously have flaws in their games, but this thread isn't about them.

    besides, this thread was also about the spurs long term future with kawhi, which will extend beyond tim and tony.
    It's a stupid thread. The only reason this is being brought up is because of two recent games. It's like when idiots were overreacting to his terrible 4-5 game slump a couple weeks ago...suddenly his offense was a huge cause for concern. Now it's his late game FTs/performances.

    Worrying about his long-term future as a closer is stupid since we can probably count on one hand the amount of times he's been given that responsibility. Can't really make a conclusion one way or the other.

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    He was the best player for the spurs in 2013 and missed 1 freethrow. Not clutch?
    Kawhi and tim was the only reason it went 7 game stupid .
    Again he choked. He should have hit both you know it and everybody else knows it. Its choking considering Lakers scrub Vujacic could hit 2 freethrows in the same situation Kawhi was in but Kawhi couldn't hit both to win it while a less talented scrub was able to do it.

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    It's a stupid thread.



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    but i've been noticing he's just not the same in late game scenario's (offensively)
    Today, Cavs game, 6 and what other noticeable games are there?

    He had monster games vs the Cavs and in 6 too. Splitting FTs for the latter doesn't really cons ute a 'choke' either.

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