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  1. #26
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    I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO FIND ME ANY QB WHO WAS MORE IMPRESSIVE IN THEIR FIRST THREE SEASONS THAN RW.

    All this ing shuck n' jive and nobody has ever shown me anyone more impreesive.

    Come on rookies, who was more impressive, well? WELL?

    COMP%
    TD/INT ratio
    PASSER RATING
    PLAYOFF SUCCESS
    STARTS
    REGULAR SEASON WINS

    Who did that better than RW, well?

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    I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO FIND ME ANY QB WHO WAS MORE IMPRESSIVE IN THEIR FIRST THREE SEASONS THAN RW.

    All this ing shuck n' jive and nobody has ever shown me anyone more impreesive.

    Come on rookies, who was more impressive, well? WELL?

    COMP%
    TD/INT ratio
    PASSER RATING
    PLAYOFF SUCCESS
    STARTS
    REGULAR SEASON WINS

    Who did that better than RW, well?
    challenge accepted.
    Julian Edelman
    comp% - 100%
    td/int - +infinity
    passer rating - perfect
    playoff success - 1/1 in sb
    starts - not sure what do you mean here
    reg season wins - not sure here either

  3. #28
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    LOL Avante continuing to respond to every RW thread. Obsessed. Just obsessed.

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    Struggle's "great first three years":

    1. Hand it off to Lynch for 90% of the game
    2. Throw a few hideous-looking passes, get lucky a couple times
    3. Sit back and be carried by your mega-stacked defense
    4. Take all the credit

  5. #30
    coffee is for closers Infinite_limit's Avatar
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    One thing is certain, Wilson would never cut it on the Soccer field

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    LOL Avante continuing to respond to every RW thread. Obsessed. Just obsessed.
    Careful there--both Avante and CN are obsessed with Russell Wilson. One is expected. The other, in his detriment, is like a on the Inchon province, being all about that black like its going out of style.

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    Another day and nobody can come up with a QB more impressive/successful after their first three seasons.

    Why am I not surprised?

    The fact he wasn't drafted to be the starter then do what he did is a bit unique in it's self.

    Has anyone ever actually looked at his stats vs the legends/greats/Hall of Famers? Look at Montana's first three seasons, look at Peytons, look at Bradys.

    Keep in mind this isn't about RW vs Tom Brady etc, it's about comparing those first three season only.

    Nobody has done it better, PROVE ME WRONG!

    Stop with the stupid bull and actually compare those three seasons, ok?
    Last edited by Avante; 03-18-2015 at 11:52 AM.

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    what's the over/under on 2013 full time starting QBs that would not have been able to win the SB with that Seattle team?

    my guess would be somewhere around 8

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    He can just do that ? Demand trade to particular team and void his contract in order to sign new deal with higher pay ?

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    He can just do that ? Demand trade to particular team and void his contract in order to sign new deal with higher pay ?
    He can demand, but he won't get his way. It would be fiscally irresponsible for the Seahawks to trade him unless they get back Julio Jones and a couple mid round picks. The cap hit would be in the neighborhood of 13-14 million if they did. That would cripple any shot of signing Wagner and Wilson.

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    He can demand, but he won't get his way. It would be fiscally irresponsible for the Seahawks to trade him unless they get back Julio Jones and a couple mid round picks. The cap hit would be in the neighborhood of 13-14 million if they did. That would cripple any shot of signing Wagner and Wilson.
    Who will you guys be bidding against? For Wilson

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    Who will you guys be bidding against? For Wilson
    every team in the league that needs a QB

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    every team in the league that needs a QB
    would you take him?

  14. #39
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    Just show that scrub the money and break up that defense...

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    He can demand, but he won't get his way. It would be fiscally irresponsible for the Seahawks to trade him unless they get back Julio Jones and a couple mid round picks. The cap hit would be in the neighborhood of 13-14 million if they did. That would cripple any shot of signing Wagner and Wilson.
    Not being able to overpay Struggle would be a blessing, not a curse.

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    wow thats a tough question. i'm personally a big fan of Carr's game. physically, he can do it all... just a matter of him getting more and more acclimated to pro offenses, since he played in the typical shotgun/spread college system. had a fine rookie year given the complete lack of offensive talent around him, and he should only get better

    that being said, Wilson is proven to be an above average NFL qb. i'm hoping Carr can reach that level. the raiders believe in Carr, too... and Reggie McKenzie is committed to him. his job security relies on Carr becoming a franchise guy.

    the only scenario where the raiders would make a run for him is if they got a great trade offer for Carr by another team. but i doubt Wilson hits the market and i doubt the raiders will give up on Carr

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    Another day and nobody can come up with a QB more impressive/successful after their first three seasons.

    Why am I not surprised?

    The fact he wasn't drafted to be the starter then do what he did is a bit unique in it's self.

    Has anyone ever actually looked at his stats vs the legends/greats/Hall of Famers? Look at Montana's first three seasons, look at Peytons, look at Bradys.

    Keep in mind this isn't about RW vs Tom Brady etc, it's about comparing those first three season only.

    Nobody has done it better, PROVE ME WRONG!

    Stop with the stupid bull and actually compare those three seasons, ok?
    Cam Newton

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    wow thats a tough question. i'm personally a big fan of Carr's game. physically, he can do it all... just a matter of him getting more and more acclimated to pro offenses, since he played in the typical shotgun/spread college system. had a fine rookie year given the complete lack of offensive talent around him, and he should only get better

    that being said, Wilson is proven to be an above average NFL qb. i'm hoping Carr can reach that level. the raiders believe in Carr, too... and Reggie McKenzie is committed to him. his job security relies on Carr becoming a franchise guy.

    the only scenario where the raiders would make a run for him is if they got a great trade offer for Carr by another team. but i doubt Wilson hits the market and i doubt the raiders will give up on Carr
    Wilson would get curb stomped in Oakland... Get real

  19. #44
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    CN with his usual NFL goods. When your QB throws 4 INTS and you still win a playoff game, it's a pretty clear signal of who the weak link is.

  20. #45
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    Wilson would get curb stomped in Oakland... Get real
    do you ever have actual takes or do you just like to throw quick jabs/attempt to troll?

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    do you ever have actual takes or do you just like to throw quick jabs/attempt to troll?
    Cam has proven he can go take a team from the bottom with no talent to a 12 win team. I'd trust Cam over Wilson in Oakland.

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    literally has regressed as a passer every year. If he couldn't run, he'd be working at McDonalds.

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    literally has regressed as a passer every year. If he couldn't run, he'd be working at McDonalds.
    More like he runs less every year. You obviously don't watch the Panthers play. His QBR got better every year, and his stats improved, except for this injury-riddled year. And he even closed out strong.

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    More like he runs less every year. You obviously don't watch the Panthers play. His QBR got better every year, and his stats improved, except for this injury-riddled year. And he even closed out strong.
    Passing Yards
    2011: 4,051
    2012: 3,869
    2013: 3,379
    2014: 3,127

    Adjusted Yards Per Attempt
    2011: 7.2
    2012: 7.6
    2013: 6.9
    2014: 6.6

    Net Yards Gained Per Attempt
    2011: 6.87
    2012: 6.96
    2013: 5.90
    2014: 5.82

    He also posted a career-low passer rating last year.

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    Like I said, post all his other stats. Also good job not mentioning Carolina used the Air Raid in 2011

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