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    Kind words, but it's kinda hard to place a great deal of value on the thoughts of JJ Re and Baron Davis.

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    Turned a scrub like Gary Neal into a rotation player while here. ....Seriously, I don't understand why Pop doesn't get the credit he deserves here when his motion offense has taken marginal players like Neal and Green and turned them into viable NBA players. People forget that Green bounced around the league because he wasn't very good. Let's not make Green and make him Ray Allen ....he was smart enough to learn how to dance within the flow of the offense and used his one offensive skill and learned to shoot.... do you think he would seriously be as effective as he is here if he played for the magic?
    You're completely leaving out how important Danny is on the defensive end. And comparing Danny to Neal. So much fail in ths post.

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    You can't teach defense.

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    I lost a little faith in our wing stoppers after Kyrie/Bron scored 87 against them ... but I guess on some days a great offense goes through any defense like a hot knife through butter. I want more consistency from Kawhi after watching him get beaten off the dribble by Shved again and again. And I would love Pop not pulling Danny out of the game early because he committed just one foul.

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    I lost a little faith in our wing stoppers after Kyrie/Bron scored 87 against them ... but I guess on some days a great offense goes through any defense like a hot knife through butter. I want more consistency from Kawhi after watching him get beaten off the dribble by Shved again and again. And I would love Pop not pulling Danny out of the game early because he committed just one foul.
    Leonard played great D on Lebron for the most part, and Pop didn't put Green on Irving until he was already going nuclear. Can't blame their performance on Leonard and Green.

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    I lost a little faith in our wing stoppers after Kyrie/Bron scored 87 against them ... but I guess on some days a great offense goes through any defense like a hot knife through butter. I want more consistency from Kawhi after watching him get beaten off the dribble by Shved again and again. And I would love Pop not pulling Danny out of the game early because he committed just one foul.
    Bro Irving scored like 40-45 of his points on Enrique. His few misses came against Danny and Kawhi. Anyways, no way is Danny a max player...he's more like an Ariza. Pay him similarly and he'll stick around just not sure if Pop is willing to since he constantly underrates him.

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    Bro Irving scored like 40-45 of his points on Enrique. His few misses came against Danny and Kawhi. Anyways, no way is Danny a max player...he's more like an Ariza. Pay him similarly and he'll stick around just not sure if Pop is willing to since he constantly underrates him.
    Well Pop constantly underrated Splitter but paid him a contract that a lot of people thought was overpriced. . I'm confident that the Spurs want Danny back. I'm just worried about what other teams can offer.

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    That's true actually, he did treat the golden god like . Hopefully he handles Danny's contract negotiations the same way.

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    Turned a scrub like Gary Neal into a rotation player while here. ....Seriously, I don't understand why Pop doesn't get the credit he deserves here when his motion offense has taken marginal players like Neal and Green and turned them into viable NBA players. People forget that Green bounced around the league because he wasn't very good. Let's not make Green and make him Ray Allen ....he was smart enough to learn how to dance within the flow of the offense and used his one offensive skill and learned to shoot.... do you think he would seriously be as effective as he is here if he played for the magic?
    The Spurs had terrible wing players from 2008 until 2012 until Green and Leonard joined the team..why didn't Pop magically turn one of those dozens of wing players into a great role player?

    And there are plenty of players that have left the Spurs and remained effective/improve, tbh..the only notable Spurs that left and became irrelevant were Dejuan Blair and Gary Neal, and that's because the latter chose to join arguably the worst offensive team in the NBA(and really, Neal was atrocious in his last year with the Spurs, outside of 2 games in the Finals)..

    The Spurs have actually been pretty ty at creating open shots for their role players this year, with all the injuries, yet Green was having a career year before Parker and Leonard returned, actually..

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    The Spurs had terrible wing players from 2008 until 2012 until Green and Leonard joined the team..why didn't Pop magically turn one of those dozens of wing players into a great role player?

    And there are plenty of players that have left the Spurs and remained effective/improve, tbh..the only notable Spurs that left and became irrelevant were Dejuan Blair and Gary Neal, and that's because the latter chose to join arguably the worst offensive team in the NBA(and really, Neal was atrocious in his last year with the Spurs, outside of 2 games in the Finals)..

    The Spurs have actually been pretty ty at creating open shots for their role players this year, with all the injuries, yet Green was having a career year before Parker and Leonard returned, actually..
    but but system..

    such a mainstream take...

    its the system

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    but but system..

    such a mainstream take...

    its the system
    Of course the system helps, but role players getting better looks by playing with better players has been the case for as long as basketball has existed, it's not strictly a Spurs thing..

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    no.. it's the spurs system...

    no other system can make danny green a defensive beast..

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    karma. For years, he's fooled people into thinking he's a classy dude but we know very well what a big piece of he really is.
    ^^^^^^^^^

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    Anybody who thinks that Danny is easily replaceable wasn't around for the Dark Ages when the Spurs when through a revolving door of starting wings. I thank god every day i don't have to watch the Centerpiece, Mason Jr., RJ, and the corpse of Michael Finley starting for San Antonio tbh.

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    Yep if Pop's system was that good, the ty perimeter players from 2008-2011 would have performed like Green and Leonard. The truth is they were legit scrubs and stayed that way. You can't even say the same about Danny who is an elite 2 way player. Pop didn't teach that tbh

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    JJ knows

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    Yep if Pop's system was that good, the ty perimeter players from 2008-2011 would have performed like Green and Leonard. The truth is they were legit scrubs and stayed that way. You can't even say the same about Danny who is an elite 2 way player. Pop didn't teach that tbh
    Slow your roll with the hyperbole bro. Kawhi is the only arguably "elite" two-way player on this team, Duncan not withstanding. I like Danny, but his defense only flashes elite and his lack of ball-handling will prevent him from being close to elite offensively. not taking anything away from his contributions, which have been huge for the Spurs. Just saying, he's no Kawhi.

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    Anybody who thinks that Danny is easily replaceable wasn't around for the Dark Ages when the Spurs when through a revolving door of starting wings. I thank god every day i don't have to watch the Centerpiece, Mason Jr., RJ, and the corpse of Michael Finley starting for San Antonio tbh.
    You mention Finley but we won a le with him and should've won another one if it weren't for the dumbest foul committed in NBA history.

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    Slow your roll with the hyperbole bro. Kawhi is the only arguably "elite" two-way player on this team, Duncan not withstanding. I like Danny, but his defense only flashes elite and his lack of ball-handling will prevent him from being close to elite offensively. not taking anything away from his contributions, which have been huge for the Spurs. Just saying, he's no Kawhi.
    I think he's an elite 3 point shooter and his defense, while flawed, is still very good. Though Kawhi is on a different level this year. I'm not trying to say Danny is a max level player or franchise player. But he would fit perfectly on many teams and would make them better. Definitely not a product of the system like weebo has said.

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    You mention Finley but we won a le with him and should've won another one if it weren't for the dumbest foul committed in NBA history.
    Post 2008 Finley was a frustrating player to watch. I know you hated Bonner, but Finley was just as ugly.

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    Post 2008 Finley was a frustrating player to watch. I know you hated Bonner, but Finley was just as ugly.
    Nobody is Bonner bad except for Ayres, tbh. And Finley wasn't a bust like he who shall not be named; we just got him when he was past his prime.

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    You mention Finley but we won a le with him and should've won another one if it weren't for the dumbest foul committed in NBA history.
    I mentioned the corpse of Michael Finley which is wholly different than the 06 and 07 versions tbh.

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    Nobody is Bonner bad except for Ayres, tbh. And Finley wasn't a bust like he who shall not be named; we just got him when he was past his prime.
    You must have forgotten the obsession Pop had with Finley when it was obvious he was done.

    Finley wasn't RJ-bad for sure, but his presence killed the Spurs during those years. I was so happy when he was waived.

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    I still nominate 2001 Danny Ferry as the worst starting wing (SF lol) in the Duncan era.

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    I love Danny Green. I believe he had the physical tools, but playing in this system helped develop his game. Not saying he couldn't have developed his 3-pt shooting and D somewhere else, but do you think he would have? Do you think he'd be at the level he is now if he didn't play with the Spurs? When he started his career playing in Cleveland, the players there, led by a young LeBron, were just running over Mike Brown. I wonder how his game would have developed if he continued in that type of environment.

    It's the discipline you gain playing with elite, high IQ players like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili and the most established and respected coach in the league. I like what Tim said in an interview. He mentioned hearing from former Spurs and how much they missed what they had while playing here. In the recent Stephen Jackson interview, isn't it telling that even Jack, after all the disagreements with Pop, and even after being cut, can't say a bad thing about the Pop and the Spurs?

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