JJ Re on Sirius NBA Radio

[wildchild]

@ the thought of Belinelli taking Danny's starting spot next year if DG bolts

[#2!]

I lost a little faith in our wing stoppers after Kyrie/Bron scored 87 against them ... but I guess on some days a great offense goes through any defense like a hot knife through butter. I want more consistency from Kawhi after watching him get beaten off the dribble by Shved again and again. And I would love Pop not pulling Danny out of the game early because he committed just one foul.

When things really got out of hand is when the Spurs started switching everything in the 4th quarter. I mean EVERYTHING; lazy screens, and dribble handoffs that would normally be avoided easily were for some reason switched. Idk why, b/c Lebron was being played so well by Leonard, and then it was DG and Diaw switching onto him every play. Hopefully just an in-season experiment, and not the game plan going forward.

[JohnnyMax]

Enrique/Scrubeli backcourt.

[DMC]

Irving didn't go nuclear because he wasn't guarded correctly. He was guarded just fine, and if we can keep him taking those shots we'll live with the results. He was unconscious from everywhere, you could have blindfolded the guy and he wouldn't have missed. There are those times.... nothing you can do.

[weebo]

I love Danny Green. I believe he had the physical tools, but playing in this system helped develop his game. Not saying he couldn't have developed his 3-pt shooting and D somewhere else, but do you think he would have? Do you think he'd be at the level he is now if he didn't play with the Spurs? When he started his career playing in Cleveland, the players there, led by a young LeBron, were just running over Mike Brown. I wonder how his game would have developed if he continued in that type of environment.

It's the discipline you gain playing with elite, high IQ players like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili and the most established and respected coach in the league. I like what Tim said in an interview. He mentioned hearing from former Spurs and how much they missed what they had while playing here. In the recent Stephen Jackson interview, isn't it telling that even Jack, after all the disagreements with Pop, and even after being cut, can't say a bad thing about the Pop and the Spurs?

Solid take. Nice to know someone else around here knows his basketball.

[Malik Hairston]

I love Danny Green. I believe he had the physical tools, but playing in this system helped develop his game. Not saying he couldn't have developed his 3-pt shooting and D somewhere else, but do you think he would have? Do you think he'd be at the level he is now if he didn't play with the Spurs? When he started his career playing in Cleveland, the players there, led by a young LeBron, were just running over Mike Brown. I wonder how his game would have developed if he continued in that type of environment.

It's the discipline you gain playing with elite, high IQ players like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili and the most established and respected coach in the league. I like what Tim said in an interview. He mentioned hearing from former Spurs and how much they missed what they had while playing here. In the recent Stephen Jackson interview, isn't it telling that even Jack, after all the disagreements with Pop, and even after being cut, can't say a bad thing about the Pop and the Spurs?

I agree with all of this, of course Green has benefited greatly from learning and developing in the best system in the NBA, with the best coach of all-time and a top 5 player of all-time, tbh..

My point is simply that Green's skills(shooting and playing defense) would translate to any good team in the NBA, we have seen it for ages in the NBA..the Spurs aren't the only team in the league that can create shots for role players, especially this year, where they had struggled to create shots for role players until this recent resurgence(Green was having a career year as the 3rd scoring option behind Manu and Duncan earlier in the year)..

I don't really understand the Neal comparisons, too..by any analytics you can use, Green is an elite perimeter defender..he's overshadowed by Kawhi, since KL is the best in the NBA(as Sean Elliott recently said), but he's nothing like Gary Neal, who was a massive defensive liability here(and is nowhere near the rebounder Green is, nor the team player)..

Their only similarity is their spot-up shooting..outside of that, by any measure you use, they aren't comparable..

[AFBlue]

I think he's an elite 3 point shooter and his defense, while flawed, is still very good. Though Kawhi is on a different level this year. I'm not trying to say Danny is a max level player or franchise player. But he would fit perfectly on many teams and would make them better. Definitely not a product of the system like weebo has said.

That I can agree with. Definitely think as much as he's grown here that he'll have an impact somewhere else if he chooses to leave.

[exstatic]

I can't see any team offering him his MAX, which would be higher than Kawhi's since he's been in the league longer. I also can't see the Spurs not stepping up to almost any offer. It's not like OTHER FAs are knocking down our door. We usually end up spending on our own players.

[weebo]

I agree with all of this, of course Green has benefited greatly from learning and developing in the best system in the NBA, with the best coach of all-time and a top 5 player of all-time, tbh..

My point is simply that Green's skills(shooting and playing defense) would translate to any good team in the NBA, we have seen it for ages in the NBA..the Spurs aren't the only team in the league that can create shots for role players, especially this year, where they had struggled to create shots for role players until this recent resurgence(Green was having a career year as the 3rd scoring option behind Manu and Duncan earlier in the year)..

I don't really understand the Neal comparisons, too..by any analytics you can use, Green is an elite perimeter defender..he's overshadowed by Kawhi, since KL is the best in the NBA(as Sean Elliott recently said), but he's nothing like Gary Neal, who was a massive defensive liability here(and is nowhere near the rebounder Green is, nor the team player)..

Their only similarity is their spot-up shooting..outside of that, by any measure you use, they aren't comparable..

DG can only expect the kind of success he has with the Spurs only playing for a team like the Hawks, Warriors, etc (as I said this much on my OP)... In other words, teams willing to play a scheme where sharing the ball is of importance, yet so many here want to make DG comparable to KL. DG is a nice player and the success he's had has a lot to do with who he plays with and the scheme they all play for...that is why I said if he got offered a great deal he should take it because the Spurs aren't going to pay him much more than what he is already making...

[Malik Hairston]

DG can only expect the kind of success he has with the Spurs only playing for a team like the Hawks, Warriors, etc (as I said this much on my OP)... In other words, teams willing to play a scheme where sharing the ball is of importance, yet so many here want to make DG comparable to KL. DG is a nice player and the success he's had has a lot to do with who he plays with and the scheme they all play for...that is why I said if he got offered a great deal he should take it because the Spurs aren't going to pay him much more than what he is already making...

Nobody is comparing him to Kawhi, one of the 10 best players in the NBA(15 at worst)..

There aren't many 3&D role players ahead of him, though(only Wes Matthews is better, off the top of my head, and he's never going to be the same player again), and that's a valued commodity in the NBA..I agree with your point if you put Green on a bad team where he's asked to create for himself, but this is the NBA, 3&D players have always had a place on great teams, especially in today's league with the progressive death of ISO-ball..

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[LoneStarState'sPride]

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