I knew Villanova was smoke and mirrors
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying he was a pompous ass saying nobody can guard him and to ask him after the game if Arizona would change his opinion. Then he is harassed into his worst line of the season and he says nobody on Arizona defended him any better than others who didn't defend him well.
Look, it was painful to see Kaminsky torch Arizona last year. Not even Aaron Gordon could slow him down. This was like that, but opposite.
Kid scored 28 points round one, then 9 this game on 19 shots.
No.. State is just a good team.
That defense was ridiculous and we played a solid, but not great game. NC State had the 5th toughest schedule in the league this year and has proven they can beat - and hang with - top teams.
Gonzaga East... a soft, jump-shooting fraud in a cupcake conference - the New Big Least gets more bids than it deserves based on prior reputation and geographic location - that chokes in March every year.
Agreed. N.C. State can beat anyone in this tourney outside of Kentucky. They've proven it all season doing well in a conference where no one has lost a game yet in the tourney. ACC should be 12-0 after tomorrow.
Villanova were a really good team and the Big East was the 4th best conference this year, but they should have been a number two seed with Arizona getting the number one seed. Also, N.C. State should have been a 7th seed as well. Tough go for the Big East, but only Villanova was really upset. Everyone else lost to better teams with the exception of Providence who lost to a Dayton team that basically had a home court advantage.
Who cares? Kid's confident in his abilities and didn't act like a on the court, not that I saw.
Chill son, I had y'all winning both games. If you beat Louisville I'll start to believe...
Other than shooting his team out of things.
He's a talent. Doesn't have to be an ass.
I'm glad to be playing next weekend. Xavier will pose an interesting challenge. I'm sorta hoping NC takes out Wisconsin as well. They are talented but undisciplined and they play no defense. That said, beating Wisconsin would likely give this team the boost of confidence to beat Kentucky the next weekend.
Northern Iowa is beating Louisville.
I'd be down with that. They have one of my favorite prospects in Tuttle; wanna see more of him.
Even back when it was "good", the big east got way too many bids and the teams never lived up to their seeds. Now it's an even bigger joke that the NCAA wants to pretend it's a good conference.
I know they're not supposed to consider prior years when seeding, but outside of the Scottie Reynolds teams, I can't remember a year when Villanova lives up to its seed or let alone out-performs it. Same with Gonzaga as you referenced. It's re ed that they get high seeds year after year.
Supposedly Big East was #2 in RPI, but that overrates teams based upon rating of teams they play who, themselves, can be overrated.
Give me hard numbers. What is your resume vs Tournament teams, did you play true road games, did you play in preseason/early season tournaments on neutral courts, and did you prove yourself against top-10 teams?
RPI is almost useless, especially conference RPI.
Arizona was unbeaten against the RPI top-100, including almost 15 wins vs tournament teams, and 3 wins including a true road game vs top-10.
Arizona dropped in the rankings before it ever lost a game despite multiple non-conference wins over tournament teams while East Coast teams like Duke, Virginia, Villanova, Louisville all jumped them before their first loss. In many instances those teams held multiple more losses than did Arizona but still was ranked higher.
This Arizona squad currently has its highest metric rating in the history of KenPom, top-5 in KenPom history overall. They are the unquestioned #2 team behind Kentucky. But they not only aren't a 1 seed, they are seeded in same bracket as the unquestioned #3, on the same side of the bracket as the unquestioned #1.
Meanwhile Duke is going to be challenged one time en rite to Final game as a 1 seed ranked 6th in KenPom.
Duke has been challenged literally every game this year in a non- conference.
ACC is 9-1
Anybody know where I can watch the Tournament Live? The NCAA stream appears to be blocked for International viewers and it's even blocking me when I use Hola.
Please help?
Big East was better than the Pac-12 and SEC in the regular season. Outside of UK, Arizona, and Utah, those conferences weren't that good. UK is the only SEC team to make the sweet 16. Arkansas was the only other top 25 caliber team. Ole Miss and LSU were lucky to make the field. George was the 3rd best team in the conference.
Pac-12 wasn't that good outside of Arizona and Utah.
Besides, the NCAA tournament is a one and done scenario so its not necessarily the best indicator of how strong a conference indicator.
No one is discrediting how good Arizona is. That's not the point. They should have been a number one seed.
The conversation is about the conferences as a whole. The Pac-12 wasn't that good. UCLA was the 3rd best team? They're not very good and reached the sweet 16 in a fluky sense beating SMU by one and a 14 seed.
The Big East wasn't that good outside of Villanova.....oh wait they're not that good either
If we're ranking from the top down:
Arizona > Villanova
Utah > Butler
Oregon and Georgetown are too close to call
UCLA > Provid
Big East nuthuggers are hilarious.yeah the teams at the top of our conference might suck but our 7th best team is the best 7th best team in sports history
They were the 4th best team during the regular season. Try knowing what the you're talking about.
Pac-12 is always bandied about as down, but Stanford and Washington were both ranked at mid season before injury and suspension derailed, and Oregon with POY was 3rd, and UCLA 4th, and the latter played Arizona tough twice last month. Much tougher than even Utah and almost as tough as Gonzaga.
UCLA was pissed on because of their Kentucky loss, but somehow Kansas survies their 30-point rout without being diminished. Why? Because they beat up on some very young teams in Michigan State and Georgetown in non-conference and played in the Big12 which was severely overrated all year for beating up on itself.
ACC was better at the top and middle than the Pac. But I think every other major conference was vastly overrated because their middle tier teams occasionally beat their top-tier teams. People are down on UCLA but forget they lost 4/5th of their starters, and a lottery pick off their bench. They needed time, but by the time they had developed the only teams they could face to prove themselves were crappy teams and Arizona. They advanced on a fluke, but I can actually see them making Elite 8.
Utah should give Duke fits as they are a bigger, more efficient version of SDSU.
I'm curious to see how Oregon plays Wisconsin. Young is capable of a 30 point game and making that an interesting matchup similar to MSU last Sunday.
Stanford the 5th team and ASU are undefeated in NIT. I thought Stanford was good enough to win a game in the tournament if shot was falling.
You're too sensitive and also not reading what I said. I said they deserved top 4 seed meaning they're a top 4 team in the country. Did I say anything otherwise? Of course not. You're picking an argument for the sake of arguing because your team is getting slurped enough even though I said they should have been a number one seed meaning they're a top 4 team. Don't be so salty all the time.
The Pac-12 wasn't that good outside of Arizona and Utah.The Big East wasn't that good outside of Villanova.....oh wait they're not that good either
If we're ranking from the top down:
Arizona > Villanova
Utah > Butler
Oregon and Georgetown are too close to call
UCLA > Provid
Big East nuthuggers are hilarious.
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