Parker knows he is getting old.
Improve his jumper and start passing..that's the only way he is going to keep his PG starting gig...
Really? Entertaining?
It stopped beeing entertaining after a few threads.
Now it's just parroting from both sides. One of the usal suspect starts a Parker or Leoard thread (doesn't even matter if it's pro or contra), maybe a few guys try to talk the subject and then, one of the Kawhi or Tony boys reacts and it's the same over and over and over again.
it's like a trainwreck, tbh... you're supposed to just move along, but there's a 3 mile traffic jam because everybody stops and takes a peek... here and there, you can spot a funny line...
I mean, what else is there to do? Rehash how Timmy is under appreciated, how Kawhi should win DPOY but won't, Pop is great/sucks, Gino is done/not done...
Game threads are still pretty good, but other than that, we've had the same team for almost two seasons, there's really very little 'new' to talk about. Even the new guy, Kyle, doesn't play.
Hopefully more coherent discussion will pick up once we're nearing the playoffs.
Everyone was exhausted after 5 tbh
That's true. PO can' start soo enough. Time to unite against common foes. But what are the odds of that happening? I doubt the Tony/Kawhi threads will find an end. Hopefully the number of threads on these topics drops...
you mean quality threads like "Max player can't guard Tony Allen"? they'll be a bit of everything... the cliff jumping certainly goes to another level
you mean quality threads like "Max player can't guard Tony Allen"? they'll be a bit of everything... the cliff jumping certainly goes to another level
Exactly. I'm looking Forward for These Kind of threads....you mean quality threads like "Max player can't guard Tony Allen"? they'll be a bit of everything... the cliff jumping certainly goes to another level
that seriously wasn't the point of the thread. I realize there are tons of Parker threads talking about his shortcomings. But the point was that the Spurs have such an incredible team of high BBIQ guys and great passers that at times, TP is one of the worst passers on the floor. Or maybe should say, "least good passer". Thread was not started to besmirch Parker but to recognize how good and smart the rest of the team is.
Well for one, you could have framed it as:
I don't see Tony Parker making the kind of passes the spurs offense depends on....is this indicative of low bb iq or can Parker adjust permanently to the passive pg role"
Instead you wrote "Parker is the stupidest spur, he can't play the good offense"
Fwiw the whole "Tony Parker is not a pg" is old. All this is is the devolution if the Parker Manu battles.
My take is simple, the spurs need both the driving Parker cand the high passing motion offense. Unpredictability makes the spurs unguardable. That's not low bb iq, it's championship strategy.
Not sure of the English interpretation, but this man's avatar says it all.
LOL. If I woudl have said that, it would have been labeled as a thinly veiled backhand slap to Parker.
LOL again. I didn't' say that.
TP is a point guard. I don't know where else he would play. He's had some good games lately which is encouraging. But I think the days of seeing him blow by opposing player and getting 15 points in the lane on a consistent basis are over. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't think he can do it night in and night out anymore. So if the rest of the team is struggling, I don't think just giving the ball to Parker and asking him to take over a game is an option anymore.
And FWIW, I think Manu faces the same issues. Age has caught up to him and he can't play his A game every night. But he does have more weapons to fall back on that TP.
Gotta hand it to the cliff-jumpers, they really elevate their game in the playoffs.you mean quality threads like "Max player can't guard Tony Allen"? they'll be a bit of everything... the cliff jumping certainly goes to another level
AExactly, there are games where our shooters are making shots (ex: Atlanta) and Parker is best driving and opening up the floor for them and for easy layups and dunks for Duncan and sometimes Splitter. Then there are nights where we aren't making shots and go on long cold streaks (ex: Milwaukee). For those sometimes we need a few buckets from Parker to stop the bleeding. Same could be said for entire playoff series in general: against the Mavs last year our guys weren't making shots to the point where we needed a game 7 performance from MVParker/Enrique. But there are other series like the Finals where our guys were hot, so we didn't need 30+ point games from Parker...18 a night was more than enough. The Spurs are the type of team that can win on any given night that one of our best players don't show up. We did it in the Dallas series and game 1 of the Finals without Kawhi. We did it on a few nights without Duncan. We did it when Manu had a few bad games. And we did it a few times without Parker. Are we going to win a le if one of those guys is injured the whole time? Probably not, but we can win a few games here and there without any one particular guy for sure.
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Two absolutely re ed arguments. Being a point guard hasn't made players like MCW any less of a dumb chucker. If rings = BBIQ, then Jeff Ayres must be a basketball genius.
damn son
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/no...or-the-future/
2. Tony Parker’s Point-of-Attack DefenseTony was never a great defender though so I'm sure this won't be a big deal now that he's gone from bad to horrible. It's not much of a difference as long as he's back offensively.In the most predictable story line of 2015, the Spurs are peaking for the stretch run after an uneven season of injuries, weird rotation choices, hockey subs utions, angry Pop timeouts, and general malaise. Kawhi Leonard is a two-way star, Tiago Splitter is moving fast again, and Boris Diaw looked positively frisky nailing an array of nutty flip shots in San Antonio’s Big Brother beatdown of the Hawks on Sunday.
Parker’s resurgence on offense has been key in San Antonio’s late-season pursuit of a top-four seed, but his defense looks almost as bad now as it did a month ago. He’s running smack into picks, going under screens against good shooters, and falling far enough behind some plays to bust the integrity of San Antonio’s defense. He doesn’t have quite the same zip in closing those gaps, and he was already a minus defender who couldn’t afford much slippage on that end.
The Spurs defense is fine overall, but the Parker issue bears watching depending on their first-round matchup.
damn son
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/no...or-the-future/
Tony was never a great defender though so I'm sure this won't be a big deal now that he's gone from bad to horrible. It's not much of a difference as long as he's back offensively.
damn son
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/no...or-the-future/
Tony was never a great defender though so I'm sure this won't be a big deal now that he's gone from bad to horrible. It's not much of a difference as long as he's back offensively.
He's not really back offensively, though, compared to past years..he's turning the ball over a lot, and his "hot stretch" was on a homestand against horrible defenses(every D the Spurs went up against was 19th or worse IIRC)..
The problem is that Parker has to play A-level, B+ at worst, offensive basketball to negate the fact that he's a complete liability in every other facet of basketball, at this point..he's a 6-foot tall, 32-year old PG with a ton of mileage and excess weight on his frame..
If he isn't playing elite offense, he's a liability, sadly..in 2012 and 2013, Parker was great on offense most of the time, which negated any defensive shortcomings..
My post wasn't ponting at you.
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