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    Shootin' like Ed O'Bannon Darius McCrary's Avatar
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    For real, I mean. Why?

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    Several reasons. The first of which is that they don't. The prevalence of ADD is something like 9% in children. Which, IMO, is definitely on the high side.

    The first problem is that parents want kids to behave like adults. This means if they can't sit still, if they jump around, if they have too much energy... they immediately freak out and take them to a shrink. Shrinks get paid money to prescribe meds, and the entire pharma industry is a racket right now.

    Kids are also intaking about 50x more sugar than they did in the 1980s and prior. I mean, I had a lot of candy when I was a kid, but it was moderated by a lot of other stuff that didn't have sugar in it. A grande frappe from Starbucks has like 80g of sugar in it, which is absurd.

    Kids are exercising less, recess has been axed at a lot of schools, and they're getting more homework now. More hours of the day spent cooped up -> more of a coiled spring.

    There's also a good deal of fear-mongering at work. Parents freak out that their child "might not be normal" if they see any kind of unusual or risky behavior and immediately start self-diagnosing, which leads to an unhealthy feedback loop.

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    Several reasons. The first of which is that they don't. The prevalence of ADD is something like 9% in children. Which, IMO, is definitely on the high side.

    The first problem is that parents want kids to behave like adults. This means if they can't sit still, if they jump around, if they have too much energy... they immediately freak out and take them to a shrink. Shrinks get paid money to prescribe meds, and the entire pharma industry is a racket right now.

    Kids are also intaking about 50x more sugar than they did in the 1980s and prior. I mean, I had a lot of candy when I was a kid, but it was moderated by a lot of other stuff that didn't have sugar in it. A grande frappe from Starbucks has like 80g of sugar in it, which is absurd.

    Kids are exercising less, recess has been axed at a lot of schools, and they're getting more homework now. More hours of the day spent cooped up -> more of a coiled spring.

    There's also a good deal of fear-mongering at work. Parents freak out that their child "might not be normal" if they see any kind of unusual or risky behavior and immediately start self-diagnosing, which leads to an unhealthy feedback loop.
    My nephew does all of this and I don't know how to control him. I mean he is nuts. He's going to a psychiatrist in a couple of weeks, do you think that's a bad idea?

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    ^ occupational therapist would be ideal. a lot of the time it can be sensory issues.

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    ^ occupational therapist would be ideal. a lot of the time it can be sensory issues.
    may have to look into that

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    may have to look into that
    sounds like enrique

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    may have to look into that
    please do

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    My nephew does all of this and I don't know how to control him. I mean he is nuts. He's going to a psychiatrist in a couple of weeks, do you think that's a bad idea?
    It depends. ADHD is a real condition and some kids do really struggle with any kind of activity that requires them to focus, so if that's the case he might definitely benefit from therapy and perhaps even medication. If he's out of hand to the point that it's disrupting his life (that's a key point there, disorders are generally diagnosed because they prevent a person from living a healthy life), then yes, it's time to get him assessed.

    A good baseline to check is, can he complete basic activities that require a bit of mental for ude? Can he read a book for 10 minutes? Can he do a bit of homework before needing a break? Or is anything that's over 5 minutes of attention unbearable for him?

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    It depends. ADHD is a real condition and some kids do really struggle with any kind of activity that requires them to focus, so if that's the case he might definitely benefit from therapy and perhaps even medication. If he's out of hand to the point that it's disrupting his life (that's a key point there, disorders are generally diagnosed because they prevent a person from living a healthy life), then yes, it's time to get him assessed.

    A good baseline to check is, can he complete basic activities that require a bit of mental for ude? Can he read a book for 10 minutes? Can he do a bit of homework before needing a break? Or is anything that's over 5 minutes of attention unbearable for him?
    He's only 3. He gets distracted easily. Bored easily. Runs, jumps, screams constantly. Talks back. Throws things all the time. Behaves pretty badly in public places. Runs away all of the time. I don't wanna be that guy with a child on a leash but I'm running out of options. He can sit and watch tv for a bit but that's rare. I mean he just doesn't listen. I can tell him not to do something 10 times and he'll keep doing it no matter what. I can take lets say a broom away from him and put it in a closet and he will go back every time to get it.

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    He's only 3. He gets distracted easily. Bored easily. Runs, jumps, screams constantly. Talks back. Throws things all the time. Behaves pretty badly in public places. Runs away all of the time. I don't wanna be that guy with a child on a leash but I'm running out of options. He can sit and watch tv for a bit but that's rare. I mean he just doesn't listen. I can tell him not to do something 10 times and he'll keep doing it no matter what. I can take lets say a broom away from him and put it in a closet and he will go back every time to get it.
    That might not be ADHD, there could be a number of conditions manifesting based on his behavior. Sounds like there's a lack of discipline at home, as well.

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    That might not be ADHD, there could be a number of conditions manifesting based on his behavior. Sounds like there's a lack of discipline at home, as well.
    His dad is in prison and his mother works alot of hours. I'm basically with the kid all of the time. I'm trying my best but it's hard. I'll definitely need to try some different things though. Thanks for the advice.

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    His dad is in prison and his mother works alot of hours. I'm basically with the kid all of the time. I'm trying my best but it's hard. I'll definitely need to try some different things though. Thanks for the advice.
    Yep, the kid is probably struggling with authority. It's rough when you're a kid and in that situation. He knows you're not his parent, so your power is somewhat limited. It makes it easier for him to justify that kind of power struggle he pulls you into.

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    Yep, the kid is probably struggling with authority. It's rough when you're a kid and in that situation. He knows you're not his parent, so your power is somewhat limited. It makes it easier for him to justify that kind of power struggle he pulls you into.
    yeah, that sounds exactly right. you a shrink or something?

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    i think cryhavoc and my wife are in the same field if i remember correctly..... early childhood intervention, yes?

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    health insurance stopped covering it i think so most of my homies got off it a long time ago

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    Not enough of this going on IMO....


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    Not enough of this going on IMO....


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    don't put that kid on any psychotropic drugs, fam. put him in an extracurricular activity and keep him busy.

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    don't put that kid on any psychotropic drugs, fam. put him in an extracurricular activity and keep him busy.
    Yeah, no drugs for sure. Gonna get him into some sort of martial arts.

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    yeah, that sounds exactly right. you a shrink or something?
    i think cryhavoc and my wife are in the same field if i remember correctly..... early childhood intervention, yes?
    Indeed. Though I'm not a huge fan of the "medicate first" that some practices follow. There are a lot of good ones out there who only prescribe drugs as a last resort, too.

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    Yeah, no drugs for sure. Gonna get him into some sort of martial arts.
    If he does actually have neurochemical imbalances, he might need medication. Martial arts won't enable a schizophrenic or bipolar individual to get back to a baseline functioning level, for instance. There's a chance the kid needs more than just an outlet if he's so consistently oppositionally defiant. But that said, it has to start with proper reinforcement at home. Maybe talk to his mom and come up with a gameplan for how to deal with his outbursts?

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    Not enough of this going on IMO....


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    If he does actually have neurochemical imbalances, he might need medication. Martial arts won't enable a schizophrenic or bipolar individual to get back to a baseline functioning level, for instance. There's a chance the kid needs more than just an outlet if he's so consistently oppositionally defiant. But that said, it has to start with proper reinforcement at home. Maybe talk to his mom and come up with a gameplan for how to deal with his outbursts?
    How do they test for neurochemical imbalances? And yeah I'll have to get a gameplan going.

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    For real, I mean. Why?
    What mg did they prescribe you?

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    Hormones in the American meat & GMO in general. Pitiful standards.

    USA roams the globe manipulating, robbing and killing yet still consume, drive and live among 3rd world filth.

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