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    He still relies too heavily on genetics and looks uncomfortable in the pocket. He had a strong rookie year and hasn't shown notable improvement since then.

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    How does a Struggle Wilson thread turn into a Cam Newton thread....

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    How does a Struggle Wilson thread turn into a Cam Newton thread....
    Frizzle showed up.

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    I've seen cam at his best, and he's talented for sure. But at this point he is what he is which is middle of the road. 3rd best qb in his own division

    He's not better than brees, Rodgers, brady, stafford, manning, luck, romo, flacco, Wilson, ryan, rivers, big ben. (no particular order)


    He's like Eli Manning without the playoff heroics. Same boat as Ryan tannehill, but tannehill has shown improvement every year. If I'm on a team lacking talent, I'd take cam over Palmer. If I'm on a good team, I'd take Palmer over cam

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    ...if Palmer doesn't go down....I would say that Arizona makes a deep playoff run. Certainly not winning the Lombardi...but they would have won 1-2 playoff games. Maybe even make the NFC Championship game last year.

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    ...if Palmer doesn't go down....I would say that Arizona makes a deep playoff run. Certainly not winning the Lombardi...but they would have won 1-2 playoff games. Maybe even make the NFC Championship game last year.
    Could be true--they need to shore up their RB situation to relieve Palmer and keep defenses honest.

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    Cam Newton another middle of the pack QB. He's not among the elite and he's not a Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's just there doing a servicable job. Sorta like a pudgy , she can get the job done but nobody is too excited about it. Except die hard Panther fans that is.

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    All I have to say is there's a reason ALL Carolina fans are excited about Cam. And it's not a coincidence that the ones optimistic about him are the ones that watch him every game. I could go into depth about his year last year and why he struggled, but there's no point because it will easily be dismissed by idiots like Avante

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    All I have to say is there's a reason ALL Carolina fans are excited about Cam. And it's not a coincidence that the ones optimistic about him are the ones that watch him every game. I could go into depth about his year last year and why he struggled, but there's no point because it will easily be dismissed by idiots like Avante
    You mean that idiot who watched you unable to post a couple times because of lost bets, that idiot?

    Look guy we all have our fav teams and players, ok? Just keep it real, alright? I love my Niners and have been a fan since around 1959, I can talk about Niners nobody here has ever heard of, but I don't act like a re ed monkey over it. , some even question my loyalty. Just keep it real,ok? half pint you'd take the Panthers in a row boat equipped with just bb guns vs a battleship ha~~~~~~~~~~~ Stop acting totally ridiculous over it.

    My Niners suck right now, I'll be surprised if we go 8-8 and I hope we totally suck, we need draft picks not 500 seasons. That's keeping it real, why not give it a shot?

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    All I have to say is there's a reason ALL Carolina fans are excited about Cam. And it's not a coincidence that the ones optimistic about him are the ones that watch him every game. I could go into depth about his year last year and why he struggled, but there's no point because it will easily be dismissed by idiots like Avante
    where do u have this data from

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    after they will pay 40 milion in cap figures between and LK, they will change their mind.

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    where do u have this data from
    Go to carolinahuddle and read any comment regarding Cam. Any.

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    after they will pay 40 milion in cap figures between and LK, they will change their mind.
    That's how the game goes. Luckily Gettleman is a ing expert drafting. Luke K, Star Lou, Josh Norman, among others. We had quite a few starting rookies last yaer that looked pretty good. My point being that we shouldn't be in too much cap hardship for a while because of Gettlemans drafting resume (not having to pay a bunch of players bloated contracts)

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    Go to carolinahuddle and read any comment regarding Cam. Any.
    oh, so a forum of panthers fans like their QB. that convinced me. people on raiders forums like terrelle pryor and matt mcgloin too

    homerism isn't convincing. fans tend to defend their qb's. will blame everything else. the coach, the OC, the receivers, the OL, everything. u have the most homer takes on the forum

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    All I have to say is there's a reason ALL Carolina fans are excited about Cam.
    And the reason is that 90% of them are inbred.

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    oh, so a forum of panthers fans like their QB. that convinced me. people on raiders forums like terrelle pryor and matt mcgloin too

    homerism isn't convincing. fans tend to defend their qb's. will blame everything else. the coach, the OC, the receivers, the OL, everything. u have the most homer takes on the forum
    You can call it being a homer. I call it defending my QB when people do nothing but on him. His stats are not that inferior to Luck or Wilson (some of his stats are better). He's not inferior and he has had WAY less weapons to deal with. I'm going to defend takes when people have no clue what they are talking about.

    The fact is that before Cam's line completely collapsed, he had the best start to his passing career. People were even saying he became elite (I can provide links). But when you get sacked 26 times in 3 games with a broken ankle, he developed happy feet, and it all went downhill from there. Of course, until we switched the secondary. Then everything magically became good again.

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    And the reason is that 90% of them are inbred.
    Hm... you do know where Philip went to school, right?

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    Hm... you do know where Philip went to school, right?

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    They have both done things Cam hasn't. But they both also had a ton more weapons and quite a few years on Cam in the NFL

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    How come nobody here ever Googles these guys career stats, it's all there. According to his career stats Cam Newton is nothing special at all. , just look at those stats.

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    How come nobody here ever Googles these guys career stats, it's all there. According to his career stats Cam Newton is nothing special at all. , just look at those stats.
    To get a fair assessment you need to actually watch the game dumb . Luck has 12 TDs last year passing from the one yard line.

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    To get a fair assessment you need to actually watch the game dumb . Luck has 12 TDs last year passing from the one yard line.
    Where in the did you ever get a stupid idea like that? Did you ever see Jim Brown play, well? You weren't even born ya ing re . Dude, he was the best ever just like everyone who knows the game says he is. Ya see stupid, his 5.2 yards a carry for a career tells us just how amaziing he was. As does his 100 yards a game for a career. no you don't have to see anyone play, ya just look at the numbers.

    What a ing idiot, damn!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey stupid, ya ever see Rocky Marciano fight? What does his 49-0 tell you?

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    Hm... you do know where Philip went to school, right?
    There's a reason why he's known as "Philbilly"

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    The fact is that before Cam's line completely collapsed, he had the best start to his passing career. People were even saying he became elite (I can provide links). But when you get sacked 26 times in 3 games with a broken ankle, he developed happy feet, and it all went downhill from there. Of course, until we switched the secondary. Then everything magically became good again.
    Translation: he's a game manager who needs to be propped up by his supporting cast, not a franchise QB who can elevate the players around him.

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