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he is a better option than td in the post.
In the past few games Tiago has been more aggressive and more successful in the post than I've ever seen him. Has he done some serious work on his moves, or is he just feeling more confident than ever?
he is a better option than td in the post.
Feeling healthy and getting in shape
His weak little hooks, flips, and chips are actually going in right now. They could just as easily start popping out again and he'll look like the old Tiago.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate everything Tiago brings to the team. He shores up the defensive paint, and he has great enough awareness and footwork around the rim to be an efficient, 50% plus scorer. He just has absolutely no idea how to finish strong. I've never seen a guy so big throw up so many 2-foot hook shots when he could just as easily dunk it.
Have you seen him dunk? Dude can barely even jump over a penny. Probably why he doesn't dunk much. His post game consists of a lot more than just that awkward hook though--his PPP has been pretty good for a couple yrs in a row IIRC.
he has been a good low volume, efficient, scorer from the low post. Awkward but he gets it done. Would like to see more looks going forward, especially against the Mavs and maybe Memphis with ZBO checking him.
Its pretty amusing how much he gets his shot blocked. He actually does dunk a fair amount of made field goals though.
5 Seasons:
302 Games, 235 FGs blocked (.7 per game)
.590 % from 0-3 Feet (career average)3.5 shots from 0-3 feet per game, 140 dunks (.46 dunks per game)
4 Post Seasons
58 Games, 32 FGs blocked (.55 per game)
.731 FG % from 0-3 Feet
3.2 shots from 0-3 feet per game, 24 dunks (.413 dunks per game)
this season and last season he hasn't been nearly as good at finishing at the rim but his finishing has been excellent in the postseason.
he's only hitting 59% of his shots from 0-3 feet (Duncan's is at .694 and Baynes .624) Splitter is 14th on the team from that area.
Last edited by cd021; 03-26-2015 at 10:12 AM.
Got to agree with this. Duncan is taking on Splitter's role of just rolling to the basket. I read somewhere that for Duncan's career, 53% or so of his made FG have been assisted but it's up to 74% this season.
He's been a better option than Tim in the post since like 2012.
i wish people that posted watched basketball
dude has confidence now fully healthy
his mind now is right
Dude needs to work on finishing his . I cant count the number of times hes missed stuff from inside 3 feet because of a weak move.
Spurs Post Up Stats:
Splitter- 1.7 (Post Ups Per Game)-1.01 PPS-1.8 Points Per Game-.567 FG %
Diaw -2.37 (Post Ups Per Game)-.85 PPS- 2.1 Points Per Game-.500 FG %
Duncan-4.2 (Post Ups Per Game) .79 PPS-3.3 Points Per Game-.393 FG %
Leonard-2.2 (Post Ups Per Game)-.82 PPS -2.2 Points Per Game-.423 FG %
As I have said numerous times. TD is the worst post up option..Pop knows this though. Diaw, Leonard have more touches in the post in the last 30 games or so..and splitter is getting more touches in the post now than TD.
But he's my hero..
When Tiago plays up to his potential, he makes the Spurs so much better - offensively and defensively. Sorry for the "Capt. Obvious" remarks but its just so damn clear. An aggressive Tiago is a difference maker.
TD is the best "almost 39 year old" player in the league and its not even close. I think we lose sight of that sometimes. He's not what he used to be but what he gives the Spurs at this point in his career is nothing short of miraculous. Want a comparison? Look at Kevin Garnett.
TD is consistent, a leader, a great rebounder and smart defensive player. He may not always get to where he needs to be defensively but its not because he was clueless. He's competing with guys who don't wake up with strange pains and aches due to age. Love that dude.
As I have said numerous times. TD is the worst post up option..Pop knows this though. Diaw, Leonard have more touches in the post in the last 30 games or so..and splitter is getting more touches in the post now than TD.
But he's my hero..
Duncans shooting percentage is bad but Diaws effectiveness comes, in part from being more selective in post ups. Depending on the match ups he is more aggressive in the post. or on the taking jumpers. Duncan has to compete against the other teams best starting big trying to post someone like Bogut or Chandler is different that posting someone like Harrison Barnes, Batum, Josh Smith or Terrance Jones.
Duncan of those players draws shooting fouls at 14.8% clip, Splitter is the only other Spurs that draws shooting fouls more than 10% of the time.
Duncan turnover rate in is very good in comparison to Boris Diaw 9.7% to 19.3%. Of his 277 post ups, he has only turned it over 27 times. Diaw has turned it over 32 times in 166 post touches.
The Spurs appear to be diversifying the post up attack. Including Baynes (who averages .8 post ups per game) the Spurs average 11.2 post ups per game Duncan accounts for 37% of those. In the postseason, I'd like to see the Spurs use Splitter in the post against players like Dirk, Montejunas, Blake Griffin and Draymond Green.
he finishes at a relly high rate, idiot
I think Pop has been going to it more frequently due to Diaw's struggles and Duncan being one of the worst post players in the league, at this point, tbh..it's nice to have a little versatility in the offense like the Spurs had in previous years, of course..
I imagine it may have a little to do with a potential Warriors matchup, too..
Splitter is in the 94th percentile in terms of post-up offense...pretty damn impressive. All of the guys ahead of him have fewer post-up possessions, too.
I'm fine with Duncan posting up as long as it's a mismatch. I can't stand seeing him isolate against guys like Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Ibaka (yes, I know what happened in OT of Game 6...that's not normal), etc.
Terrible thread. Splitter got outplayed by ayers last night
Excellent post. A lot of advanced stats are largely based on context, something the vast majority either don't realize or acknowledge.
I've always felt Splitter had an underrated post game because a lot of it looks awkward. It's not something to feature consistently obviously, but anytime he's got a blatant mismatch, they should absolutely utilize it, particularly against the Warriors, with their constant switching of the pick and roll.
When a nba championship is on the line, I'll still take Timmy.
I remember in '13 during the Finals he had a mediocre game 2, 3 and 4 iirc. In Game 6 and Game 7 he was terrific especially in the low post. When it comes down to it I'd trust in Tim. His extra gear is still there.
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