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buying insurance through state exchanges or healthcare.gov is ACA, but anyone can buy insurance directly with insurers, as always.
He can purchase private health insurance for his family outside of healthcare.gov. There are plenty of "free market" health insurance providers that would be more than happy to sell him a plan.
buying insurance through state exchanges or healthcare.gov is ACA, but anyone can buy insurance directly with insurers, as always.
That's right. So he did not have to buy Obamacare for his family as many have suggested in this thread.
A principled man would have purchased insurance directly through an insurer as opposed to using the exchange.
Benghazi!!!!!
Hardly. This story will be forgotten tomorrow if not sooner.
Btw cc, I like the way you're subtly evolving into a Ted Cruz fan. I think you should actively campaign for him. Invest some sweat and equity in his campaign. I think it really might pay off for you
I think Cruz is a smart nutter. Not to be taken seriously. However, it's hilarious watching you lefties cream your pants over something as trivial as where the guy is going to buy insurance. Its' not like somebody died.
Don't think anyone is creaming their pants here. Just pointing out the irony while you and the other Kruz fans are getting defensive.
You do realize that you can only get insurance through the market place? How is that hypocritical?
I don't recall seeing any Cruz fans on here and there is no irony in it.
Indeed.
lol Harvard educated.
It's a bad thing when a liberal is (damn elitist!). It's great when a conservative is.
Nobody on this planet had made it more of a crusade than Cruz to get rid of Obamacare -- that's why it's noteworthy.I think Cruz is a smart nutter. Not to be taken seriously. However, it's hilarious watching you lefties cream your pants over something as trivial as where the guy is going to buy insurance. Its' not like somebody died.
Cruz fans here? not relevant to the deliciousness of Krazy "repeal every last word" Kruz shopping for insurance.
That's not true. As we've already established. You can buy health insurance directly from a provider. The ACA mandates that you have coverage, not that you purchase it from an exchange.
Can't believe you are still beating this dead horse. The ACA requires Senators to purchase through the exchange.
That is the current law. it is not defending Cruz to point out that you are posting bull .
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/05/con...rom-obamacare/
I certainly don't want to speak for DarrinS but I believe he was showing the similarities to Obama and then indicating that he would pass on Cruz. Just what I took from his post.
Maybe so, but trust me... DarrinS would vote for and love him if he gets the nomination.
Even if Cruz were to purchase directly from a provider he would still be purchasing an Obamacare policy. That is all that is available to individuals thanks to Obamacare. Maybe you've forgotten the uproar over millions of cancelled policies and "If you like your plan you can keep your plan".
So Cruz's choices are to either 1) Purchase healthcare through his employer - which was established with the ACA or 2) Purchase healthcare through the private market - again established by the ACA or 3) Not purchase health insurance - which would be in violation of the ACA's mandate?
Am I missing something here? Hey, I bet he pays Social Security, Medicare AND Medicaid Taxes too! Call CNN!
Not buying insurance is not in violation of anything. It's just much more expensive in the long run.
Why isn't Cruz's wife covered by Senators' health plan?
This would mean that G-S plan, temporarily discontinued while on leave of absence (but I'm sure G-S could cover LOA for such a famous employee), would be her secondary insurance, so that any expenses not covered by Krazy Kruz's plan would be submitted to the secondary insurer.
That's exactly how it works for one of colleagues, who has a great plan as primary, and sends non-covered expenses to her husband's great plan.
Yes, Ted Cruz is a hypocrite for going on Obamacare
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who announced his run for president on Monday, had a mixed bag of second-day campaigning. On the one hand, he raised $1 million. On the other hand, the right’s champion of “no compromise” assault on Obamacare and much of the rest of the federal government admitted that, yes, he would be going on Obamacare.
With Cruz’s wife, Heidi, stepping away temporarily from her job at Goldman Sachs, the Cruz family has to get its insurance somewhere, and the Texas senator has decided that “somewhere” is HealthCare.gov. Thanks to a Republican amendment to the law, the federal government can only offer members of Congress and their staffs insurance that requires going through Obamacare exchanges. Cruz will, however, reject the 75 percent employer contribution that the federal government decided to continue offering to all members and their staffs.
Liberals quickly lobbed accusations of hypocrisy. Conservatives argued back that Cruz is just following the law, like a man who pays income tax even though he believes it is uncons utional or who follows gun control laws that he doesn’t support.
But this isn’t a case of following the law or not. The law does not require Cruz to get health insurance on the exchanges. Instead of going through the exchanges, he could have paid the tax penalty for not having insurance, “likely cheaper than buying an insurance plan,” but at the cost of being uninsured. Or his wife could have applied to COBRA and extended her benefits from Goldman Sachs for up to 18 months, though she would have to pay all of the premium. Or he could bypass the exchanges and buy insurance directly from a private insurer. Sure, he’d have to spend time navigating the market himself, but I’m sure the Princeton graduate can figure it out.
Each of these options would cost Cruz time, money or both. But several Republican representatives already have purchased insurance without going through the exchanges, so it is clearly possible. Yes, Cruz would have to purchase a plan that meets minimum standards established under Obamacare, but anyone who thinks that someone with his resources would otherwise buy a plan with excessive co-pays or skimpy coverage is fooling themselves. And Cruz is rejecting the government’s employer contribution, even though he is en led to it as a member of Congress. That is thousands of dollars a year, and accepting it would still be following the law. So Cruz clearly has already made the decision to spend lots of money to make a symbolic stand. Why not follow through on that and avoid the Obamacare exchanges?
Cruz is not just anyone. He wants us to vote for him for president. He has consistently demanded that his Republican colleagues never compromise. He not only thinks that Obamacare, which he says puts the government “between you and your doctor,” is a bad policy; he thinks that it is such an existential threat to the United States and its health-care system that it was worth shutting down the government in an attempt to undermine the law. But suddenly the law and the health system it created is not scary enough for his family? If Cruz really wants to run as the candidate of righteous convictions, he’ll have to do a better job of following his own.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/03/25/yes-ted-cruz-is-a-hypocrite-for-going-on-obamacare/?tid=rssfeed
I think this speaks less to hypocrisy and more to hysteria - Cruz and Congressmen of his ilk consistently use apocalyptic rhetoric to describe policies like Obamacare to the point that shutting down the government is seen as the better option. They fail, and life goes on as though they hadn't just predicted total disaster a few months ago.
... nailed it.
Thanks, Texas kickers, rednecks, tea baggers, Kock suckers, Bible humpers, for staining America with this Krazy Kruz POS.
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