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    Van Gundy is the single most entertaining thing that ESPN/ABC have going for them right now.

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    No doubt they should be favored, but "biggest choke jobs of all-time", hardly. Running the Western Conference gauntlet from any seed is going to be a challenge.
    We'll see what the odds are when Vegas releases them for the playoffs, but the Warriors are going to be massive favorites, tbh..with Durant out for the playoffs, the Spurs are the only potential challenge, there isn't really a "gauntlet", tbh..it reminds me of the Lakers in 2009 and 2010 in the West, unfortunately..

    Based on history, off the top of my head, only 1 team with similar team metrics to the Warriors didn't get to the Finals IIRC..

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    We'll see what the odds are when Vegas releases them for the playoffs, but the Warriors are going to be massive favorites, tbh..with Durant out for the playoffs, the Spurs are the only potential challenge, there isn't really a "gauntlet", tbh..it reminds me of the Lakers in 2009 and 2010 in the West, unfortunately..

    Based on history, off the top of my head, only 1 team with similar team metrics to the Warriors didn't get to the Finals IIRC..
    Spurs line will be juicy.. Probably something like +800
    Still a good small bet IMO...

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    We'll see what the odds are when Vegas releases them for the playoffs, but the Warriors are going to be massive favorites, tbh..with Durant out for the playoffs, the Spurs are the only potential challenge, there isn't really a "gauntlet", tbh..it reminds me of the Lakers in 2009 and 2010 in the West, unfortunately..

    Based on history, off the top of my head, only 1 team with similar team metrics to the Warriors didn't get to the Finals IIRC..
    I still think the Spurs, Grizzlies, Rockets, Mavs, Clips and maybe even the Blazers are capable of pulling off an upset. The only thing I can see as a "choke job" is losing to a depleted OkC in the first round. Metrics be damned ! I guess I'm just not sold on the Warriors being that much better than the collective field.

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    His constant nagging, blatant bias and over the top statements got old a long time ago.

    I don't think anyone but the Spurs (who probably don't have the energy) or Thunder (who obviously don't have the health) can beat them, but I do think a number of teams can and will give them a compe ive series.

    This team has no one who's ever been in the position they're in and they weren't supposed to be in this position going into the season. They've also faced no adversity to this point.

    Unlike all the idiots who've already crowned them, I'm not going to pretend to know for certain how they'll respond to these things in the cauldron of the playoffs.

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    Spurs bigs are better passes that Golden States by a long way. If they play anywhere near the level of last year, they'll win, regardless of the opponent

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    Not sure why some of yall are getting butthurt over JVG's sense of humor. A lot of the stuff yall are talking about he says as a joke, like the 21 point play. I like him, he and the play-by-play guy are the only thing ESPN has going for them. Their pregame/halftime crew is awkward and Mark Jackson sucks.

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    For some odd reason many get bent out of shape and worry about silly stuff like this.
    It would not happen if we were located in LA or NY.
    Frankly, I like the idea of people thinking the Spurs are a class organization, only mentioned in passing because we won last year. People who really know basketball saw what we are capable of, it's just not something to talk about when there is such a good team in the Bay Area.

    Its all good. Seems only Dallas and Laker fans really despise our team.

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    I don't mind Van Gundy at all.

    Bible Thumping Jackson and Reggie Miller will always be the worst IMO. Barkley is up there too, but he is funny to listen to at times.

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    There is no way Golden State makes it to the Finals, simply because, well, they are Golden State. I don't care who is coaching them or how many soft shooting guards they add, they are the Warriors of Golden State, and they don't make it as far as the Finals ever. Somehow they'll choad it.

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    OP, do you accept being a dumb if JVG ends up being right, and Spurs don't at least get to the Finals?

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    I really don't understand the GSW hype. They're somewhat a more mediocre version of the 07 Mavs that lost against the Warriors in the first round. Remember, the Mavs were two wins away from winning the ship until the refs decided to take over. Anyway, the Dubs will win over some inexperienced playoff teams but they will hit a brick wall if they face Memphis or San Antonio. Also, it's going to be very tough for any team to beat the Spurs 4 times in 7 seven games. The last time it happened? It took the greatest three-point shooter of all time to do it.

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    I honestly think if the Spurs get to gsw theyll beat them. Danny green does the best out of anyone in the nba of guarding curry and klay hasnt been too good in the playoffs so far and with kawhi on him that wont change. Also remember bogut hasnt had his traditional out for over a month injury, he's due

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    Remember when the eventual 67 win Mavs were crowned champs in March?

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    The Spurs destroyed LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. That's 2 superstars and a perennial all star. While GS plays great on both sides of the ball I just don't see them beating a healthy Spurs team playing at their highest level.
    The way the Spurs have played the past few games, no team in the NBA can beat them. 39 blowout of the Thunder. Yes without Durant or Ibaka, but c'mon, a 38 blowout and this is a team w/o Ibaka or Durant has only lost 6 games up to the other night and all by 3 points or less except one.

    Spurs, the way they played on Wednesday and during the Finals last year, are unbeatable.

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    Remember when the eventual 67 win Mavs were crowned champs in March?
    did the mavs lead the league in D and O that year?

    Nope.

    GSW is a different beast.

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    OP, do you accept being a dumb if JVG ends up being right, and Spurs don't at least get to the Finals?
    I accept your mother nightly. And yes if golden state is not even challenged on the way to the finals I'm a dumb .

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    I didn't have much of a problem with that. The Warriors look really good and deserve a bit of hype. When someone pointed out that the last team since GSW to lead the league in offensive and defensive fg% was the '81 Sixers, he said, "they won the championship with ease." Actually, that was the Sixers team from two years later. The 81 team blew a 3-1 lead in the ECF to Boston. The winner of that series was going to win the le.

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    did the mavs lead the league in D and O that year?
    Again, the last team to do that didn't win the le.

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    did the mavs lead the league in D and O that year?

    Nope.

    GSW is a different beast.
    Everyone media and fans thought Dallas had the le locked up.. GSW still don't have a true superstar on the team. Teams 99% of the time don't win chips without that superstar.. And no Curry is not that guy IMO. Plus Leonard will shut down Thompson in a 7 game series.

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    The ovwerwhelming statistic is that the champion comes from the first two seeds. It just makes sense. They are the teams that are most consistent. If Spurs win it this year, it would be a once in an era thing. Epic, worthy of song and poems.
    I checked and you're mostly right. Since the Spurs won their first championship the NBA champ has ?always? been in the top 3 of their conference, and usually top 4 in the NBA as well. The only exceptions are the 2004 Pistons (3rd in the East, 6th overall), 2006 Heat (2nd in the East, 5th overall), 2011 Dallas (3rd in the West, 5th overall).

    Right now the Spurs are 6th in the West and 8th overall... they are really a long shot to win it all this year.

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    I honestly think if the Spurs get to gsw theyll beat them. Danny green does the best out of anyone in the nba of guarding curry and klay hasnt been too good in the playoffs so far and with kawhi on him that wont change. Also remember bogut hasnt had his traditional out for over a month injury, he's due
    Forget game 2 of the 2013 series against the Spurs when Thompson killed it?

    And what if Bogut's injury doesn't come? They've managed his minutes a ton this year and they would have won that series against LAC last year with him healthy.

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    Forget game 2 of the 2013 series against the Spurs when Thompson killed it?

    And what if Bogut's injury doesn't come? They've managed his minutes a ton this year and they would have won that series against LAC last year with him healthy.
    In general klay hasn't been good in the playoffs, would you agree with that? And if boguts injury doesn't come it'll be more of a challenge but doable

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    In general klay hasn't been good in the playoffs, would you agree with that? And if boguts injury doesn't come it'll be more of a challenge but doable
    I've never been a huge Klay fan and it helps a lot to have Curry to take the pressure off you.

    He had two bad games last playoffs, two good games, and one game where he barely got off any shots (the blowout) and another mediocre one where he put up points. Shot about 41% from the field and scored 16.4, so not too bad. Shot 44% the prior year and scored 15.2 per game, so also not bad either.

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    I've never been a huge Klay fan and it helps a lot to have Curry to take the pressure off you.

    He had two bad games last playoffs, two good games, and one game where he barely got off any shots (the blowout) and another mediocre one where he put up points. Shot about 41% from the field and scored 16.4, so not too bad. Shot 44% the prior year and scored 15.2 per game, so also not bad either.
    Thompson has been atrocious in the playoffs, tbh..something like a 13 PER and 11 PER IIRC..his only hot game vs. the Spurs was when Pop decided to double team Curry and Harrison Barnes, which kept leaving Thompson wide open..following that game, the Spurs made the adjustment of Green on Curry, Kawhi on Thompson, and no longer double teaming Harrison Barnes, letting him shoot whenever he wants..

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