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    Believe. Malik Hairston's Avatar
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    What do you guys think, tbh?

    He said today's players are too skilled, and they give more 2-way effort than players of the past, which burns them out long-term, leading to coaches resting players, etc..

    Simmons is 40-something, he's not a millennial, he grew up watching 80s and 90s ball..he claims that players of the past only really gave effort on defense during 4th quarters..any unbiased observer understands how much better the game has become, of course..

    I agree that they should shorten the season, hopefully it will happen before 2020, but I doubt it, too much money at stake..

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    Veteran cantthinkofanything's Avatar
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    I don't know. I like Simmons but it seems like he's just looking for material. I don't agree with his assessment of 80's and 90's ball as being only 4th quarter defense. The play has gotten soft compared to the physical game of those years. Need something in between imo. But the season does need to be shorter.

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    Simmons is a got, but less games with more time for players to rest in between would be fine. Just because 82 games apparently worked in the 1960's when they adopted the current schedule doesn't mean it's the best way of doing things.

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    Believe. Malik Hairston's Avatar
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    I don't know. I like Simmons but it seems like he's just looking for material. I don't agree with his assessment of 80's and 90's ball as being only 4th quarter defense. The play has gotten soft compared to the physical game of those years. Need something in between imo. But the season does need to be shorter.
    It's mostly a myth that the game has gotten "soft", but the reason it's less physical is because the game was extremely ugly in the 90s, tbh..the only reason 90s ball thrived is because of Dad Killer and his marketing..viewership declined dramatically in the Pistons/Spurs era of 2003 to 2007..

    And if you watch a game from the 80s, their "defense" is absolutely embarrassing, tbh..

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    Veteran RD2191's Avatar
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    82 games is way too many and pointless.

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    thank you
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    today's NBA
    can't play more than 2 times a week omg so exhausting
    gots

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    - Another thing to consider is how much tougher it is to guard ball moving offenses. In the past, you had the luxury to rest every now and then because there was minimal off the ball movement. Now, every darn team is using off the ball screens at almost every darn play. Defense is a lot tougher now..Way Smarter offensive schemes.

    - Bigs also have more responsibility defensively now. Sadly, mainstream is still stuck with 90's mentality's (mainly because the media is full of 90's players) that a big's two most important jobs is paint and post defending. In today's NBA, I don't think that's the case. Being able to switch as big now, IMO is the most important defensive aspect of big's D or at least 2nd, IMO.

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    These players are already getting richer off the new tv deal. Now lets spoil their rich asses even more with less games? I don't think so.

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    thank you
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    want the games to be more important
    manufactured storylines
    white people wanting the sport to become more like WWE
    another notorious redneck interest

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    I don't think post defending is as important now. Way less teams post now..It's all about paint defending and being able to chase guards..chasing guards off PNR>>Post defending..

    Thankfully, there is some promising mobile big defenders in today's NBA..Noel for example is really good at chasing guards, and a good paint defender but average post defender..IMO, that should be the model of big defending in today's NBA.

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    It's mostly a myth that the game has gotten "soft", but the reason it's less physical is because the game was extremely ugly in the 90s, tbh..the only reason 90s ball thrived is because of Dad Killer and his marketing..viewership declined dramatically in the Pistons/Spurs era of 2003 to 2007..

    And if you watch a game from the 80s, their "defense" is absolutely embarrassing, tbh..
    To say no one played defense in the 80s is bull . Cooper Dennis Johnson Tr Dunn Larry Nance, etc were all top level defenders for any era. We also had more elite shot blockers with Eaton, Bol, Tree etc to add to Hakeem Ewing etc. Bigs that could defend pnr were lacking and that is one of the reasons the Jazz feasted on teams ...but the dismissal of the 80s on here is disrespectful

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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    To say no one played defense in the 80s is bull . Cooper Dennis Johnson Tr Dunn Larry Nance, etc were all top level defenders for any era. We also had more elite shot blockers with Eaton, Bol, Tree etc to add to Hakeem Ewing etc. Bigs that could defend pnr were lacking and that is one of the reasons the Jazz feasted on teams ...but the dismissal of the 80s on here is disrespectful
    the 80's was a joke xompared to today's game..

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    They need to cross compete in the playoffs.

    1 seed in East plays 8 seed in West and so forth.

    If you have 6 Western teams by round 2, then teams that deserved to be in round 2 will be in round 2. divisions.

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    I'm all for it, our players are wearing out on this tanking season. There's only so much Bryant could have done in a long season, as opposed to a meaningless shortened season like 1999.

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    I'm all for it, our players are wearing out on this tanking season. There's only so much Bryant could have done in a long season, as opposed to a meaningless shortened season like 1999.
    2/10 Work on it.

    Bryant has had a few shortened seasons lately. He should be good to go.

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    It's mostly a myth that the game has gotten "soft",
    No, it's soft. I get why they started calling it tighter but the pendulum swung too far like affirmative action. Calling hand slaps and nudges in the paint. It's partially to blame for the flopping epidemic that they had to create special rules for.

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    Nah, keep it as it is. They should start with smarter scheduling instead. Eliminate one week with 2 games followed by 4 games in 5 nights the next, Home/Road back 2 back games needs to go as well.



    Also, take out preseason games. Those are pointless and meaningless.

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    Or they can try extending the season a bit, so they would play less games per unit time, and it'd also shorten the longass off-season so fans would waste less money/time on football and other ty sports imho.

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    Knock off 8-10 games and call it a day.

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    Play every team in the league twice. One home, one away. Top 16 go to the playoffs. Don't know on tiebreakers. Hottest cheerleaders maybe.

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    & who's gonna give up those multi-millions?

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    2/10 Work on it.

    Bryant has had a few shortened seasons lately. He should be good to go.
    Here's a pity, reply, now wipe the crisco off your keyboard..

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    You cant change the amount of games. It's stupid and a over blown situation...

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    Here's a pity, reply, now wipe the crisco off your keyboard..
    You can always tell the immigrant alts, improper use of commas and such.

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    The NFL definitely makes fewer games work for them.

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