Cavs: Is there really any doubt who the real MVP is?

[Henrik Sedin]

Cleveland wouldn't have even made the playoffs in the East without LeGrowthHormone.

GS is ridiculously stacked and I have no clue why ESPN is pushing CPIII into MVP consideration.

[DMC]

Nope, no doubt. I've said all along Lebron is the MVP. It's not even remotely close if you consider how the team fares with/without them. No one really thinks James Harden can carry a team to a ring. Lebron on the other hand.. Cleveland wouldn't even be in the playoffs without him. With him, they are favorites. That's a bigger swing than any other player in the league.

[djohn2oo8]

Nope, no doubt. I've said all along Lebron is the MVP. It's not even remotely close if you consider how the team fares with/without them. No one really thinks James Harden can carry a team to a ring. Lebron on the other hand.. Cleveland wouldn't even be in the playoffs without him. With him, they are favorites. That's a bigger swing than any other player in the league.

Rockets are a lottery team without Harden, so yes it is close.

[Henrik Sedin]

Rockets are a lottery team without Harden, so yes it is close.

Howard proved he could carry a team by himself back in Orlando.

[djohn2oo8]

Howard proved he could carry a team by himself back in Orlando.

He hasn't been healthy most of the year.

[DMC]

Rockets are a lottery team without Harden, so yes it is close.

Yeah, because the Rockets were missing the playoffs before Harden arrived and they did a bang up job last year.

Cleveland last two years James was there were top in the Eastern standings.

The year he left, they were dead last while Miami was 2nd in the Eastern standings.

Miami was a playoff team already, but not even remotely close to being a threat to win the East.

James Harden left the Thunder and they made the WCF the following year, finished with the best record in the West.

Meanwhile the Rockets were already a playoff team. James AND Howard come along and they are still a playoff team and get ousted in the 1st round. Now they are positioned over a couple teams that fought injuries all year (don't tell me about Howard's injuries, he's never been an MVP caliber player) and having one guy out enabled James Harden to become ball dominant, so he scored a lot.

James Harden doesn't improve Houston's chances to ring, and it's speculation to say Houston would have missed the playoffs if Harden was out and Howard wasn't. It's not speculation to say the Cavs would have missed the playoffs, they have every year since Lebron left. Now he's back and they are a 2nd seed and are the favorites to win the East. Oh.. and Kevin Love, we know he's a beast.

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[Daniel Sedin]

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[Beaverfuzz]

Cleveland wouldn't have even made the playoffs in the East without LeGrowthHormone.

GS is ridiculously stacked and I have no clue why ESPN is pushing CPIII into MVP consideration.

Yes, Andrew Bogut is the glue that holds GSW together. He will be MVP hands down.