I think it's different for Jefferson because he was supposed to make the Big 3 a Big 4. He had high expectations, and failed miserably. Not just in the playoffs, but in the RS as well.
Bonner put in some solid effort in '13 playoffs against LA and Memphis... and against the Thunder last season, tbh.
I hated on Bonner a long time ago when pop consider him a starting player alongside Duncan.
Right now i am in peace with the guy, he is only playing this much because Baynes is injured and Diaw is playing like he doesn´t care, so i don´t mind Pp giving the red mamba minutes.
thus the it's ok to hate watching Matt Bonner playing bb vs. it's ok to hate Matt Bonner
If Bonner was black he would have been cut years ago
Bonner has had enough time to show how effective he can be or can't be, that is the point some have I am guessingWith Bonner you know what you get and what he is honestly. If he is hitting and used sparingly in the right situations then I have no problem, it's just when Pop would over play the guy in a series or two like he was going to be Horry is when I had the problem with him. Right now he doesn't bother me nearly as much, right situations he can play but otherwise glue him to the bench and I am fine.
I agree FULLY on Ayres, what a bad signing that was and he is not worth what he is making. He is a garbage time player only and never will be more than that in this league IMO, yet they went out and nabbed him as a FA that summer. Bonner is better than that guy, quite easily in fact. Lets hope we don't have to use either come playoff time, that is about all we can ask for (Unless it is a blowout).
The problem with Bonner is his contributions aren't obvious or glamorous. For example, he's exceptionally careful with the ball and has one of the lowest turnover rates in the league... to the Spurs who just care about wins, that's hugely valuable. To some fans, they don't pay attention to that stuff so they don't realize why he gets played.
Knowing 1. why the Spurs play(ed) Bonner so much, and 2. why the Spurs were so much better plus-minus wise when he was out there (hint: there's far more to it than "he stretches the floor") is probably the easiest way to determine the depth of a Spurs fan's basketball knowledge.
If someone says they don't like Bonner because he looks slow and awkward, that's a valid opinion, and I can respect that. But if someone says they don't like Bonner because he's not a good player, I can't respect that because it's an opinion not supported by facts and demonstrates the person has little knowledge of today's NBA game.
By most metrics, when the playoffs roll around and players mismatchs are exploited, he's a below average player, that's a fact. Plus/Minus, PER, VORP, etc. You can take a look for yourself:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bonnema01.html
So I understand his role as a regular season minute burner, but fortunately Pop went away from the failed experiment of Matt Bonner the playoff performer. I'm hoping that stays that way, especially if Baynes can give us serviceable minutes if those minutes are needed.
Dude, we already know all that stuff you just said about Bonner. We're not novice fans.
Big minutes, small minutes, doesn't matter at this point. We're all just done with him already.
You could pull some bum out of the stands and say the same thing is Pop inserted him into the game. It's not his fault, but you're still ed.
I see it more of an issue of no true C on the court. Bonner isn't such a trainwreck next to Duncan, Splitter, and Baynes.
Even with Baynes hurt, Bonner doesn't have to play. The 8-man rotation that won a championship was Parker/Green/Leonard/Diaw/Duncan/Mills/Manu/Splitter.
If anything, Joseph and Belinelli are 9 and 10.
I also notice without getting into the king of the plus minus stuff that they have played him alot less during the playoffs the last two years, result? Two finals appearances and one le. He was getting too many minutes and overused during the 08-11 runs and the results speak for themselves when he gets limited minutes they do better in the playoffs. He is a situational player and when he is used correctly there is no problem, when overused though there is a problem especially when his shot is not falling or the guy he is guarding is too quick or athletic for him.
I remember Sheed one time said during a game I believe to give the ball to the guy he is guarding, no coincidence he got burned that game. Memphis series in 011 was a disaster as well with him. He had a decent series in 013 vs Memphis and did his job I will give him that, last year against OKC that one quarter he started as well everyone mentions 1000 times about him and so on is another one he did his job and then promptly the second half got off the floor. If used right he is fine, if the match up is bad and overused he is detrimental to the team, sometimes Pop did not know the line but THANK GOD NOW he appears to get it.
Numbers aside this is logic, the guy below you El Nono posted something to somewhat show during the playoffs he falls off. Regular season guy and situational player, that is about the just of it.
He was getting 20 minutes a game in the 09 playoffs, 17.5 the next and then 20 the year after, way too many minutes. The years after it dropped off significantly and the Spurs go further each year, just saying. His shooting % awful too besides 013 when he actually shot good in the playoffs from three, otherwise way below his career avg.
And it'd be equally unfair to hate that random bum instead of calling out Pop for making a mistake. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the GOAT coach and I'm glad he's with the Spurs but he's definitely made his fair share of mistakes. Just goes to show that nobody's perfect, tbh.
Hopefully we get some red mamba burn in this garbage of a game.
No, only if we're up 50 with a second left.
uh he's losing the plus minus stat
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