Neil Degrasse Tyson on scientology v christianity

[Blake]

Back from what?

man, I gave you 3 instances just 30 minutes ago.

lol

[Blake]

lol "accurate bible".

Lol I missed that

Lololol

[RD2191]

[Blake]

Well, when Christians aren't killing them, sure.

Lol

[Blake]

How in the does religion/believing hold anyone back? Those into it want things as they are. Those not into relgion/believing are so few, um.

^ coming from dude that ascared of Islam

[Blake]

But all christians don't believe in transubstantiation which he leaves out. Is the statement "Muslims are terrorists" true or false.

He didn't say all Christians do. Nobody said they all do.

"Muslims are terrorists" is false.

"Christians are catholics" is also false.

"catholics are Christians" is true.

This isn't hard, and hardly worth discussing.

[DMC]

all catholics are Christians. So are all mormons, which he also mentioned.

You can't say all terrorists are muslims nor can you say all muslims are terrorists. False analogy.

They are all cults. If you trace the lineage of all these sects they are not much different than David Koresh's group.

[Pauly D]

Helps me to understand that particular religion. I find that useful.

So you find it INTERESTING. Knowing that muslims go ape over depictions of mohammed? Useful. Knowing that [insert religion] aren't supposed to eat [insert food]? Useful. Knowing that catholics believe in transubstantiation? Ummm, I guess it's useful so I won't desecrate bread and wine in front of a catholic?

So you're cool with business owners having the ability to deny service to Blacks?

Abso inglutely. I'd also be more than fine with a black business owner denying service to whites. It's not my ing RIGHT to buy whatever that business is selling. And this isn't ing pre 70s, no one would be hurt by prejudice business owners except the businesses themselves for bad publicity and losing that business to compe ors

[Trainwreck2100]

He didn't say all Christians do. Nobody said they all do.

"Muslims are terrorists" is false.

"Christians are catholics" is also false.

"catholics are Christians" is true.

This isn't hard, and hardly worth discussing.

So by your reasoning
There's many kinds of Christians but a subset are catholics and thereby "are"
There's many kinds of terrorists but a subset are muslim and thereby "are not"

They both satisfy the same argument I never introduced all btw they are both statements of fact. I never said all btw you introduced the qualifier "all" and attempted to use it to support your argument

[Avante]

man, I gave you 3 instances just 30 minutes ago.

lol

I must have missed it.

So we are being held back from what?

[Avante]

^ coming from dude that ascared of Islam

Are those people living the way they prefer, yep!

[Blake]

So by your reasoning
There's many kinds of Christians but a subset are catholics and thereby "are"
There's many kinds of terrorists but a subset are muslim and thereby "are not"

In the context of the Op, replace the word "people" with "Christians" and it's not incorrect.

It's not the best wording since some are obviously confused by it, but it's not incorrect.

I never said all btw you introduced the qualifier "all" and attempted to use it to support your argument

This is you introducing "all"

Only the catholics believe that so if he actually said that and meant the entirety of Christianity it's a flawed argument

[Blake]

I must have missed it.

So we are being held back from what?

No, you even responded to it just a while ago in the other thread. Are you really that Alzheimerish?

[Blake]

Abso inglutely. I'd also be more than fine with a black business owner denying service to whites. It's not my ing RIGHT to buy whatever that business is selling. And this isn't ing pre 70s, no one would be hurt by prejudice business owners except the businesses themselves for bad publicity and losing that business to compe ors

ok.

I'd easily argue discrimination holds society back too, but that's a different thread.

[Trainwreck2100]

In the context of the Op, replace the word "people" with "Christians" and it's not incorrect.

It's not the best wording since some are obviously confused by it, but it's not incorrect.




This is you introducing "all"

Disregarding your reading comprehension I also say it's flawed if he meant Christianity cause Christians aren't catholic rights? Your words not mine. Also I was talking about you using all in the terrorist muslim metaphor.

[DarrinS]

Do you believe sacrament crackers turn into Jesus flesh when eaten?

I don't.

Millions do because their religion tells them.

No they don't.

[Thebesteva]

NDT is a genius, but hes ing annoying at this point. His entire role has been to laugh at everyone for believing in things. He was on the Joe Rogan show bashing the belief of UFOs or anything supernatural. He wasn't questioning, he was bashing anyone who believed in it.

I know this world is in a terrible place, in large part due to religion. But there are many good people out there that just believe in a God and arent the preaching type of head religious people, why constantly make fun or try to take away belief?

If there's anything this world needs right now, is less of this imposing my beliefs onto you. Even from something as small as this to the gay community constantly enforcing their views on others.

[Pauly D]

ok.

I'd easily argue discrimination holds society back too, but that's a different thread.

You can't legislate tolerance. The only thing discrimination in business would hold back these days are those businesses for the reasons I already said. Free minds and free markets work themselves out

[Pauly D]

NDT is a genius

Is he though? Obviously he's one of the top in his field but I'm wondering how much smarter he is than others with his education. I can't help but think he's at that top tier level but the genius label is only perceived because he's just comfortable in front of a camera and articulates what everyone else at his level wishes they had the charisma to articulate

[Blake]

Disregarding your reading comprehension I also say it's flawed if he meant Christianity cause Christians aren't catholic rights? Your words not mine. Also I was talking about you using all in the terrorist muslim metaphor.

I have no idea what you're saying here.

[Avante]

I get called in for jury duty, while heading to where I was suppose to go I notice that days docket, it read like a Mexican phone book. Then once I get in the jury room, yep, there sits a young Mexican with tats all over his neck and looking punkish.

We are different and why this need to pretend we aren't, why?

[DMC]

NDT is a genius, but hes ing annoying at this point. His entire role has been to laugh at everyone for believing in things. He was on the Joe Rogan show bashing the belief of UFOs or anything supernatural. He wasn't questioning, he was bashing anyone who believed in it.

I know this world is in a terrible place, in large part due to religion. But there are many good people out there that just believe in a God and arent the preaching type of head religious people, why constantly make fun or try to take away belief?

If there's anything this world needs right now, is less of this imposing my beliefs onto you. Even from something as small as this to the gay community constantly enforcing their views on others.

Then why should anyone consider anything you just said?

[Blake]

NDT is a genius, but hes ing annoying at this point. His entire role has been to laugh at everyone for believing in things. He was on the Joe Rogan show bashing the belief of UFOs or anything supernatural. He wasn't questioning, he was bashing anyone who believed in it.

I know this world is in a terrible place, in large part due to religion. But there are many good people out there that just believe in a God and arent the preaching type of head religious people, why constantly make fun or try to take away belief?

If there's anything this world needs right now, is less of this imposing my beliefs onto you. Even from something as small as this to the gay community constantly enforcing their views on others.

I bet you would find NDT less annoying if he were making fun of believers of Santa Claus that tried to push their Elfish beliefs into public domain.

[Blake]

You can't legislate tolerance. The only thing discrimination in business would hold back these days are those businesses for the reasons I already said. Free minds and free markets work themselves out

You can legislate discrimination. And we do. For a lot of very obvious reasons.

[Blake]

I get called in for jury duty, while heading to where I was suppose to go I notice that days docket, it read like a Mexican phone book. Then once I get in the jury room, yep, there sits a young Mexican with tats all over his neck and looking punkish.

We are different and why this need to pretend we aren't, why?

Gosh you living in California makes your story so baffling.