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  1. #151
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    Brazil vagina is bleeding right now, for some reason.

    Leonard is the best player thus he's the most valuable. Heck Bobo and SPlitter would probably finish games against GSW.
    not knowing difference between valuable and best

    if you wanted to talk about being the best why use value unless you don't know the meaning of these two words.... I'm probably asking too much to a Canadian got

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    I think kawhi is most valuable and best. The offensive mvp for the spurs is the system. Parker is the best at running it, but we have other ball handlers who can run the plays.

    No one replaces kawhi on defense. If Duncan were just a bit healthier I'd give him the nod as mvp but I could honestly see us win a championship with Duncan out, while I can't say the same for kawhi.

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    That should probably be the best test. If player x is missing, would the team suffer? We saw the spurs without kawhi. It was an eight seed team.

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    I also said numerous time he was the best player of the team this season...

    but best player does not equal value (only in Canada apparently)

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    Not wanting to join in personal attacks but while Kiwi leads the Spurs in scoring and is by far our best defensive player, I can imagine games where Kiwi can go off and the Spurs still lose the game. However for me when Tony is on, he not only scores but he is facilitating for the entire team. I find it harder to see a game where Tony is hitting his shot penetrating and passing out and isn't a total liability on defense where the Spurs lose, unless the team is just giving it up on defense. If Kiwi went nova shutting down the opposing teams best player scores say 30+ points the Spurs could still lose. If Tony goes nova he not only scores 25+ but by virtue of his position has 15+ assists that Spurs team just seems harder to beat. Not that I think TP is a better player but PG is a more important position to a teams success.
    Tony has had only 1 game with 10 or more assists (21 pts 13 assists) and the Spurs lost.

    In games where Kawhi scores at least 15 pts and gets 10 rebs the Spurs are 10-0.

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    I also said numerous time he was the best player of the team this season...

    but best player does not equal value (only in Canada apparently)
    Depending on how you determine value (production based on salary or how important they are to the team or trade value). I would say that Kawhi has been the most valuable player on the team this season.

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    Tier One
    Kawhi
    Timmy

    Tier Two
    Green
    Manu
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    Boris

    Tier Three
    Enrique
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    tbh if parker regresses back into pre-march form, he could be in tier 1 but in a bad way

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    Kawhi
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    Depending on how you determine value (production based on salary or how important they are to the team or trade value). I would say that Kawhi has been the most valuable player on the team this season.
    yes value is much larger than being the best player, you can talk about wins produced, influence on the locker room and on FO, you can talk about importance for the franchise or indeed trade value etc...

    In terms of value to the team Tim is still the man imo...

    Even talking about purely BB, his impact as a player during this season is ing underrated due to couple of posters spoiling the board with their BS trolling, you read ST board and you think Tim is washed, sucks at Post up, slow, cannot defend P&R etc... BUT one tend to forget dude played almost all Spurs game this season except for 5, he carried the load for a while when Kawhi and Parker were dealing with injuries. He is the player who logged the most minutes just behind Green, he produced the most points of the roster, the most rebounds, most blocks, third on assists, he has the sames Ortg and Drtg than Kawhi, best win shares of the team etc etc...

    So ya in terms of value to the team, Tim is still 1 and Kawhi is 2... even though at his age Duncan is not anymore the best player of the roster but he is far from being far behind and is the second best at 38 y/o

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    It's not Parker hate. . Truthfully, Parker hasn't been that good the last two seasons due to fatigue, breaking down. He's getting old. It happens.
    Your bad takes are getting old too. It happens.

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    Your bad takes are getting old too. It happens.
    It was still true. But keep deflecting per usual.

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    It was still true. But keep deflecting per usual.
    I gave you my take right below.

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    1. Duncan
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    3. Tony when hes 100%
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